Quote Originally Posted by Colt47 View Post
They gate the savage raid mostly for the 2nd hidden boss fight at the fourth tier. If it were just a gear grind people would drop doing it entirely because the only benefit is getting the dyable slots on raid gear and higher damage numbers, which are rendered completely moot by the next big content patch. But the fact it takes a specific group of people putting in over a hundred hours just to get the clear done optimally makes the content unaccessible to most people.

Also, some numbers so people get an idea of how insane savage really is (because our blessed content creators tend to have a bit of bias in the whole thing and don't seem to want to show people the ugly parts like arguing with your team mates and the time commitments)

A week 1 clear party generally puts in 12 hours a day with some minor breaks, and generally the later tiers require more than one week to clear for these groups. So a top tier raiding group can potentially race and clear in around 84 - 144 hours. FYI, most people aren't in this category and have to divide their times up each week hence why it can take 4+ weeks to clear. However, that isn't all of it. In truth, it takes even more hours for groups that do not dig into the fights every day because they often have to review and reprog older mechanics, since people forget things between last week wednesday and the current wednesday. So lets say an entire night gets wasted on reprogs and someone is doing 3 hour nights for three days in a week. Without counting reclear times, the number of weeks goes from 12-16 weeks to 14-18 weeks since those extra hours of reprog have to come out of something. Now lets say that those days people are raiding on are also representative of the time they have to do reclears. It takes a full night to reclear all the way to the 4th fight and the prior nights are basically getting cut down because of the reclear times. We're looking at anywhere from 19-20 weeks to 21-24 weeks easily. This is why people end up trying to get skips in later tiers because the increased difficulty in the 2nd and 3rd tiers are pretty brutal on groups.

And remember, the longer the time it takes to get through savage the more likely there is going to be drama and in-fighting, let alone having to go find another group in that case of a break-up. This is why it takes many people ages to clear a tier and why the content creator comments that savage is easy is kind of a stupid smoke screen for how much of a pain it really is. By tier 3 any sane person will want to tear their hair out with the amount of stupid stuff they likely had to deal with. The one good thing is at least the first tier is forgiving enough the social issues are not quite as bad.
A first tier take around 20h-25hours to clear

My static for p4s took 22 hours to clear p1s-p4s, week 1