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    LilaIronman's Avatar
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    Himeko Yurimura
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    Thats why its called END GAME RAIDING not Casual Game Raiding
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by LilaIronman View Post
    Thats why its called END GAME RAIDING not Casual Game Raiding
    OP has poorly written message but let me rewrite it (minus gibberish about crafted gear) for you casual player to understand:

    1) Gearing is trash, can't gear support and dps class at same time etc (dont get me started with melees split into dex and str, casters having different sps setups etc ...) (and also also something something 450 tomes in patch with number SEVEN at start)

    2) After you get raid id lock in savage you can't do anything, you can't join any other groups on floor to practice fight more or other role (what if dps wants to try out prog as tank?). I want to play the game yet I can't, it feels way worse than WoW because there is only 4 bosses.... At least WoW has m+.

    3) Essentially having all classes on one character is pointless, go level/waste time on msq on more characters if you want to play geared tank and healer and dps before savage hype dies.

    Following carrot on stick (gear) in this game is a hollow experience and SE does not want casual players to realise that.
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    Howard Alt-eisen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stasya View Post
    OP has poorly written message but let me rewrite it (minus gibberish about crafted gear) for you casual player to understand:

    1) Gearing is trash, can't gear support and dps class at same time etc (dont get me started with melees split into dex and str, casters having different sps setups etc ...) (and also also something something 450 tomes in patch with number SEVEN at start)

    2) After you get raid id lock in savage you can't do anything, you can't join any other groups on floor to practice fight more or other role (what if dps wants to try out prog as tank?). I want to play the game yet I can't, it feels way worse than WoW because there is only 4 bosses.... At least WoW has m+.

    3) Essentially having all classes on one character is pointless, go level/waste time on msq on more characters if you want to play geared tank and healer and dps before savage hype dies.

    Following carrot on stick (gear) in this game is a hollow experience and SE does not want casual players to realise that.
    1) SE want to milk your sub.
    2) join book run
    3) no one forced you to play all classes.
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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    3) no one forced you to play all classes.
    SE shouldn't give the option then.
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    SE shouldn't give the option then.
    Bullshit entitlement, if I ever saw any.

    Not a problem to equip jobs one item level tier lower and they are still plenty capable for all content except maybe ultimate.

    I mean it doesn't take rocket science to understand that you are not supposed to have ALL jobs at maximum potential, ready to raid ultimate.
    If you expect that of yourself or your peers, that is a YOU problem, not a game problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Bullshit entitlement, if I ever saw any.

    Not a problem to equip jobs one item level tier lower and they are still plenty capable for all content except maybe ultimate.

    I mean it doesn't take rocket science to understand that you are not supposed to have ALL jobs at maximum potential, ready to raid ultimate.
    If you expect that of yourself or your peers, that is a YOU problem, not a game problem.
    I don't really see it as entitlement to wish to engage with the Job system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    I don't really see it as entitlement to wish to engage with the Job system.
    You are. Just just don't get the top item level on every one.

    It is a good thing that people are forced to "main" certain jobs and that you can see that from their item level.

    The only thing they should remedy, is that people who have gotten loot negatively influence the drops for their parties, so people can freely participate.
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    SE shouldn't give the option then.

    You can take all courses at the University, did you?
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    Olivar Starblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    SE shouldn't give the option then.
    That's kind of what they did. Only that you can't play all classes with BiS during a raid patch.
    It's actually the only part that gives our characters some identity. You're not just every class. You specialize in a few, and people in party finder, or your FC know you as what you do best.
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    Stasya Astolfofangirl
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    Quote Originally Posted by GartredZW View Post
    That's kind of what they did. Only that you can't play all classes with BiS during a raid patch.
    It's actually the only part that gives our characters some identity. You're not just every class. You specialize in a few, and people in party finder, or your FC know you as what you do best.
    - What's your identity?
    - I specialize in PLD because I rolled greed on random weapon against 7 people


    .... groans ..... not the rdm weapon again .... when nobody in raid can use it ....
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