Weekly Gear Lockouts Kill Gameplay

[ovIm]

1) SE want to milk your sub.
2) join book run
3) no one forced you to play all classes.

1. if they wanted to do that they could put insane grinds into the game. This is more of an issue of FF14's "Respect the time of the player" mentality, where even small playsessions should feel like you can achieve something. Which is good, but makes longer playsessions unsatisfying for those wanting that.
2. fair, really.
3. true, but what about people that want to play multiple roles?

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Generally I think the lockout method is a good base principle to make sure you can't go ahead too far. But sadly there is very little to do once you have reached the small lockout gates.

[Kaurhz]

If someone doesn't want to do Y, then let them do X so that they can obtain Y.

In this case, if someone doesn't want to invest into crafting, then just invest into other facets of the game. Literally every single facet in this game awards Gil, or something that can be exchanged with Gil. Running ex primals? Cool, loot on everything, and then Desynth it (Only requires Level 30), and then sell the items you get. Running maps? Cool, sell the items with that. Running exploratory content? Cool, sell the fragments and logograms, or farm other items from there for Gil.

The only stance I can remotely agree with is the purpose of weekly lockout/caps, e.g., with Tomes etc., - One of the biggest selling points is that you can do everything on a single character. Lockouts and caps are an antithesis to this philosophy.

[Thurmnmurmn]

I don't want them to get rid of the lockout but it would be nice if they could make it so the lockout only applies to your job or role. That way you could gear other jobs as well.

[Stasya]

1. if they wanted to do that they could put insane grinds into the game. This is more of an issue of FF14's "Respect the time of the player" mentality, where even small playsessions should feel like you can achieve something. Which is good, but makes longer playsessions unsatisfying for those wanting that.
2. fair, really.
3. true, but what about people that want to play multiple roles?

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Generally I think the lockout method is a good base principle to make sure you can't go ahead too far. But sadly there is very little to do once you have reached the small lockout gates.

Book runs to practice other roles? You are joking? I mean if you put pf just to get it done, would you accept a tank showing up and saying "hey im from start as tank, but i did it as dps, are you fine with me trolling and potentially make people angry and leave?"

[ovIm]

Book runs to practice other roles? You are joking? I mean if you put pf just to get it done, would you accept a tank showing up and saying "hey im from start as tank, but i did it as dps, are you fine with me trolling and potentially make people angry and leave?"

Not being the one that suggested this, I merely have no other solution at hand that I would offer. Please direct your criticism of the idea to the quoted poster

[Lak14]

Book runs to practice other roles? You are joking? I mean if you put pf just to get it done, would you accept a tank showing up and saying "hey im from start as tank, but i did it as dps, are you fine with me trolling and potentially make people angry and leave?"

lmao, you doing book run, you have no choice.

[LilaIronman]

OP has poorly written message but let me rewrite it (minus gibberish about crafted gear) for you casual player to understand:

1) Gearing is trash, can't gear support and dps class at same time etc (dont get me started with melees split into dex and str, casters having different sps setups etc ...) (and also also something something 450 tomes in patch with number SEVEN at start)

2) After you get raid id lock in savage you can't do anything, you can't join any other groups on floor to practice fight more or other role (what if dps wants to try out prog as tank?). I want to play the game yet I can't, it feels way worse than WoW because there is only 4 bosses.... At least WoW has m+.

3) Essentially having all classes on one character is pointless, go level/waste time on msq on more characters if you want to play geared tank and healer and dps before savage hype dies.

Following carrot on stick (gear) in this game is a hollow experience and SE does not want casual players to realise that.

You are comparing wow dungeon m+ with ff raiding, if you start to compare the two, compare ff14 raiding with wow raiding, M+ and FF14 Raiding are nowhere near alike tho

[Granyala]

SE shouldn't give the option then.

Bullshit entitlement, if I ever saw any.

Not a problem to equip jobs one item level tier lower and they are still plenty capable for all content except maybe ultimate.

I mean it doesn't take rocket science to understand that you are not supposed to have ALL jobs at maximum potential, ready to raid ultimate.
If you expect that of yourself or your peers, that is a YOU problem, not a game problem.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I dont know why people are against this lol Would it really hurt to double all loot caps at the very least.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Bullshit entitlement, if I ever saw any.

Not a problem to equip jobs one item level tier lower and they are still plenty capable for all content except maybe ultimate.

I mean it doesn't take rocket science to understand that you are not supposed to have ALL jobs at maximum potential, ready to raid ultimate.
If you expect that of yourself or your peers, that is a YOU problem, not a game problem.

I don't really see it as entitlement to wish to engage with the Job system.