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    Zangetsu's Avatar
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    Kory Zangetsu
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    Mnk burn chimera. Nevah move. Dragon kick tail off immediately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zangetsu View Post
    Mnk burn chimera. Nevah move. Dragon kick tail off immediately.
    hmm, intresting aproach, gona have to try that with static, my question to that tho is how do you handle the adds with princess and chimera?
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    MND also will increase your auto attack damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashenspire View Post
    MND also will increase your auto attack damage.
    Main stats only effect WS damage. STR due to it adding Atk every few points increases AA damage.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    Correct, auto attack and healing magic potiency with is also used for enmity build, soo i guess one could say stacking either str or mind would be equally effective depending on how your building you tank. If your building your tank to hold hate per DPS then str would be better, but if you are building a turtle tank, mind would be more usefull to you.
    SE seems to have hinted at those two different build designs with the Darklight Pieces.

    Heavy Darklight (HP,Def,Dex, Vit, Mnd, ENM, Magic Evasion, -Evasion) for Turtle.
    Darklight (Atk, Vit, Str, -Evasion) for straight DD Tank

    These are the most effecient designs for those two types of builds.
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 08-23-2012 at 05:57 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Judge_Xero View Post
    Main stats only effect WS damage. STR due to it adding Atk every few points increases AA damage.



    SE seems to have hinted at those two different build designs with the Darklight Pieces.

    Heavy Darklight (HP,Def,Dex, Vit, Mnd, ENM, Magic Evasion, -Evasion) for Turtle.
    Darklight (Atk, Vit, Str, -Evasion) for straight DD Tank

    These are the most effecient designs for those two types of builds.
    good to see somone on here has done thier home work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceofspades View Post
    good to see somone on here has done thier home work
    I play with some heavily geared teammates.

    Since I'd rather build enmity, do damage, and dodge attacks, I need to have as much excess enmity as I can, for any downtime I may have dodging.

    Monk and Blackmages are pretty relentless, so the longer I can keep them in yellow, the better.

    I know enmity is a team mechanic, but I'd rather noone hold back on boss fights.

    (not trying to sound like an uber awesome tank or anything. But research and testing is better than trial and error IMO)
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 08-24-2012 at 01:32 AM.
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    Correct, auto attack and healing magic potiency with is also used for enmity build, soo i guess one could say stacking either str or mind would be equally effective depending on how your building you tank. If your building your tank to hold hate per DPS then str would be better, but if you are building a turtle tank, mind would be more usefull to you.
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    I find I never need to use all three pcs of HDL on PLD even so. For Chim I drop the flanchard for felt trousers and sentinel sabatons with 3x hp melds, and not for te survival but for the spirits damage boost. For Ifrit extreme I only used HDL gauntlets and ran HP gear/surcoat (cover) for the same reason as above, plus melee damage is reduced on it so enmity is not as large an issue there (can get ahead of melee due to jumps, nail phases and other breaks in consistent damage).
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    I'll look into it. The nice thing about the lower NM's is I can keep stoneskin up so I take 0 dmg most of the time and top myself off with just a cure if need be. I am runnin low on hymns, down to 3 so I may have to look into other ways to keep my stats the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tman View Post
    I'll look into it. The nice thing about the lower NM's is I can keep stoneskin up so I take 0 dmg most of the time and top myself off with just a cure if need be. I am runnin low on hymns, down to 3 so I may have to look into other ways to keep my stats the same.
    Probably your best chance would be if you have the Milita Gear.

    Aside from the Trousers, the other pieces add 30 MND, and 390 HP

    Then you could wear trash gear and 2 MND rings for low HP testing.

    I wonder if it would work to test on low level mobs with say a Brass Gladius. Then your Stoneskin would work very well, and you could probably test naked with a couple of MND rings.

    Using a Parser though makes it 100% easier for testing, with the 9% Deviation
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    Last edited by Judge_Xero; 08-26-2012 at 12:21 AM.
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