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    Shialan's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Thank you for this, OP. It's nice to have a rebuttal to all the people defending DT because we just don't like "not being the main character".

    Having proof that basically shows that the literal bloody point of the game is for the WoL to be the main character is great.
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
    Some of us can't unsub yet. I have 30 days left because I had to buy a gamecard due to the broken payment system. If I knew the expac would be this bad, I wouldn't have bothered but that's what happens when you get false advertisement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViaDesperare View Post
    Some of us can't unsub yet. I have 30 days left because I had to buy a gamecard due to the broken payment system. If I knew the expac would be this bad, I wouldn't have bothered but that's what happens when you get false advertisement.
    I've considered cancelling my sub, and it still might happen, but I don't wanna lose my medium house and I actually enjoy the new raid content. I think the Alliance Raid patch will be what determines whether or not I go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
    Let me share with you one of my favorite moment in one of my most favorite TV show:

    - Doctor 1: you're treat and back to normal.
    - Patient (a presidential candidate): good enough to run?
    - Doctor 1 : why? You're not gonna win.
    - Doctor 2: why not!?
    - Patient: know what? I gonna run!
    - Doctor 2: good for you!
    - Doctor 1: why? What's the point?
    - Patient: so you think the only way to make a difference ... is to win every single time?


    I hope you're smart enough to understand that last question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
    Yeah, that doesn't work either. Look at Forspoken. Nobody wanted that, very few people bought it, but SE said, what if that, but Wuk Lamat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Yeah, that doesn't work either. Look at Forspoken. Nobody wanted that, very few people bought it, but SE said, what if that, but Wuk Lamat.
    It DOES work. People here are just talk and would rather not miss another eRP opp or lose a digital house (that they won't be able to own irl) than vote with their wallet and unsub. Stay unsubbed too. SE will see money go down, they make fixes. Very simple.
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuled View Post
    It DOES work. People here are just talk and would rather not miss another eRP opp or lose a digital house (that they won't be able to own irl) than vote with their wallet and unsub. Stay unsubbed too. SE will see money go down, they make fixes. Very simple.
    I was unsubbed for three years. The game got worse. Tell me again how I'm going to make a difference.
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    F'helix Fraldarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
    I am so tired of seeing this take in every single thread complaining about Dawntrail MSQ. First of all, many of us play for more than just the MSQ, but we still care about the story and want it to be good. The MSQ is what I started playing this game for, but its the group content that made me stick around. I've made friends here, real friends, some of whom I've met with IRL and talk to every day because of this game. This is my community. And maybe it sounds corny, but since the lockdowns in 2020 this game is also my home. It was there for me during some really scary and unprecedented times and brought me so much joy and comfort. If I was just some casual gamer passing through and didn't care about the game much, I probably would unsub. I'm still here because I DO care, quite a lot, and even if only a tiny fraction of feedback gets seen I want to add my voice to that chorus. If the game gets bad enough, I will unsub, as hard as it would be, but until then I want to support the content that is still good while calling on CBU3 to do better with the story, because I know they can, I've seen it before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    Then stop playing. Vote with your wallet. Sure, you could still keep playing and write forum post after forum post, but what Square ultimately looks at are their metrics. If they see that people are unhappy with the story, but still play this game, they won't really bother to change anything.
    You give up easy when the going gets rough, don't you? They messed up with DT on the story by a LARGE margin, though it's really the first time they've stumbled this hard. Sure Lyse and Stormblood was a hiccup too, but not nearly as bad. Even if you hated stormblood, this is what, 2 bad Expacs over the 10 years with twice as many good ones? Just because they stumble now and then, doesn't mean you ditch them. It's only after they do it consistently do you say "I've had enough."
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