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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    It's funny you are saying that, because most of the VA's used are well experienced. And it looks like they tried to cast people who would be considered native to the region. Erica Mendez (Mablu/Miilal Ja), Ben Balmaceda (Linuhanu/others), Anairis Quinonos (the Twin sisters), Luis Bermudez (Koana), Javier Prusky (Bakool Ja Ja), Sena Bryer (Wuk Lamat), and Spencer Ortega (Zarool Ja) all have Latin American heritage. In fact, most of the VAs used in Tural seem to be of ethnicities indigenous to the Americas. The only outlier, in a way was the Shaaloani area, where they appeared to lean into the "old west movie" stereotype. But that was a stylistic choice.
    You seem to view latin America as a single culture/language territory which is not. Not in culture and not in languages. Besides, save one actor born in Chile (who is not «of an ethnicity indigenous to the Americas» btw) but who lives in the US, all were born in the US, not all are fully fluent in Spanish and genetics are pretty irrelevant. Also, the Spanish are not indigenous to the region and all the game references are to other cultures.

    This irrelevant «blood is what matters» thing seems to be a very white American way of doing things and it totally disregards cultures anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Willemdarke View Post
    I'm sure Wuk Lamat would have sounded a lot better without that weird, phony "south American" accent she was trying to put on.
    To me she sounds very American with a weird forced accent from nowhere. In fact the actress mentions on her LinkedIn that she only has a «limited working proficiency» in Spanish.

    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    I hate this line so much. It practically implies accents are passed down through genetics. I'm half Mexican, my Spanish is decent (though my ex from CDMX says it's sounds almost like a native from Chihuahua on the rare occasions I know what I'm saying), but I can't speak with an accent for shit in English. I sound like every "white" person raised in Central Orange county, CA. Rhotic, informal, and slightly nasally. Just because someone has a Latin American heritage doesn't mean they can reproduce the accent in English, even if they speak the language natively. My previously mentioned ex didn't have any sort of accent when speaking English because she learned both languages in tandem.

    And I'm not saying you're making the argument that accents are passed on genetically, but I've seen that line used so many times that I finally had to address it. And for the record, I personally couldn't care where someone is from. Whether or not they can make a convincing voice for the role is all that should matter.
    Totally agree. Also as someone pointed out too, Spanish isn’t even the language that would have been spoken. For example, if you take the real life equivalent of Urqopacha, even today millions of people (not just pockets as someone mentioned) speak Quechua (and Aymara) - it’s an official language too. Some don’t even speak Spanish. My dad always made his speeches in Quechua first and Spanish after if needed when he was talking to an audience from that region.

    This is not a complaint about the VA, just about a strange practice that seems to have originated in the US. It’s a pure facade.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 07-24-2024 at 10:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    And for the record, I personally couldn't care where someone is from. Whether or not they can make a convincing voice for the role is all that should matter.
    For the record, I am not saying accents are genetic, as an accent is gained through social osmosis, mostly. Second I agree that it shouldn't matter where a person is from, I was just pointing out how it seems the devs tried to cast VA's with indigenous heritages, at least in English. I doubt there would be many in the other languages. Third, I also was just trying to inform the OP that the VAs used are experienced. Lastly, I too understand blending in with every white person in the country. My friend like to joke with me that Puerto Ricans aren't real. We are some mythical creatures apparently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toutatis View Post
    You seem to view latin America as a single culture/language territory which is not. Not in culture and not in languages. Besides, save one actor born in Chile (who is not «of an ethnicity indigenous to the Americas» btw) but who lives in the US, all were born in the US, not all are fully fluent in Spanish and genetics are pretty irrelevant. This «blood is what matters» thing seems to be a very white American way of doing things. Also, the Spanish are not indigenous to the region and all the game references are to other cultures.
    How and when did I give the indication that I viewed Latin America as a single culture. It is a region, nothing more. And usually refers to everything below the USA. So where was I wrong in stating the VAs I mentioned have Latin American heritage? And last I checked Chile was in South America. Also, I never once mentioned Spanish. Spanish really has nothing to do with Latin America. Just like French has nothing to do with Canada, but no one jumped there. Than again, we have yet to reach fantasy Canada, as we barely scratched the north.

    I was merely pointing out to the OP, that the VAs used were experienced, and it appears that the Devs tried to use VAs with indigenous heritage. That's all.

    The cultural aspects of this game as not expressed through language. If they were no one playing would understand anything. Everything is in the language of the user/client, with the culture expressed in alternate ways, so that the player can understand it.

    I agree that it shouldn't matter where you come from, as long as you can do the job. But I never once implied it's what drove everything.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 07-24-2024 at 10:45 PM.
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    Sorry but your voice actors suck at dubbing for japanese media. Actors and actresses from Europe and Australia put their heart into it.
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