Usage of Phoenix Down

[AyumiCosplayGlam]

Can we finally allow the usage of Phoenix Down mid combat or find an alternative?

This is not a complaint about the increased combat difficulty, but it certainly resurrected (no pun intended) my old grievances with how Phoenix Down works in the game, it borderline serves no purpose as it is now.

With the increased difficulty not only the chances are higher that players are dying, we also got 2 new DPS job who don't have a resurrect.
With every DPS job who can't resurrect added to the game, our chances of having backup resurrects are getting lower and lower.

I think it would be a good addition if Tanks and DPS would get a role ability with like 120sec cooldown as Phoenix Down to salvage otherwise lost situations.

Thoughts?

[Kukajoo]

No. It's okay to wipe. It's okay to fail. Not everything needs a failsafe.

[GrizzlyTank]

If they gut summoner and rdm ress because reasons, then this should be the compromise. One phoenix down per player per fight.

[ServerCollaps]

its helpful in deep dungeons from time to time

[Raikai]

If they gut summoner and rdm ress because reasons, then this should be the compromise. One phoenix down per player per fight.

Or at least add a big cast time and a big recast time to hinder the usage.

This, together with putting more limitations on Verraise and Ressurection, can potentially excuse SMN and RDM from that ridiculous 'tax' they pay to have those rezzes, since they would now become job perks rather than identity defining elements.

[BigCheez]

No. It's okay to wipe. It's okay to fail. Not everything needs a failsafe.

100% this.

Content is more fun, engaging and rewarding when the possibility of failure exists. It's okay to wipe. Just go again.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Can we finally allow the usage of Phoenix Down mid combat or find an alternative?

This is not a complaint about the increased combat difficulty, but it certainly resurrected (no pun intended) my old grievances with how Phoenix Down works in the game, it borderline serves no purpose as it is now.

With the increased difficulty not only the chances are higher that players are dying, we also got 2 new DPS job who don't have a resurrect.
With every DPS job who can't resurrect added to the game, our chances of having backup resurrects are getting lower and lower.

I think it would be a good addition if Tanks and DPS would get a role ability with like 120sec cooldown as Phoenix Down to salvage otherwise lost situations.

Thoughts?

No. We need to have a point of failure in this game. Otherwise, there's no challenge and no engagement.

its helpful in deep dungeons from time to time

Agree. That's the only use for phoenix down. I don't think I've ever bothered to use it in any other content.

[Kes13a]

Can we finally allow the usage of Phoenix Down mid combat or find an alternative?

This is not a complaint about the increased combat difficulty, but it certainly resurrected (no pun intended) my old grievances with how Phoenix Down works in the game, it borderline serves no purpose as it is now.

With the increased difficulty not only the chances are higher that players are dying, we also got 2 new DPS job who don't have a resurrect.
With every DPS job who can't resurrect added to the game, our chances of having backup resurrects are getting lower and lower.

I think it would be a good addition if Tanks and DPS would get a role ability with like 120sec cooldown as Phoenix Down to salvage otherwise lost situations.

Thoughts?

might I introduce you to a role called "healer"?

they come with a rez.

[Striker44]

might I introduce you to a role called "healer"?

they come with a rez.

And if the healer dies?

[Kes13a]

And if the healer dies?

what normally happens. or do you now believe there should zero consequences at all?

if the healer dies, the group either wipes, or it doesnt. if it wipes, everyone learns something hopefully, and you try again.