I played the Throne & Liberty beta last week and..

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

[NekoNova]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

1. Early Access Packs
2. Custom currency Lucene
3. Everyone plays generic human with the option to shapeshift a bit
4. Focus lies on massive world and guild combat, and guild PvP


so yeah, will be dead in 6 months because they won't be able to balance this for the more chill players, the lifeblood of any game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

1. Early Access Packs
2. Custom currency Lucene
3. Everyone plays generic human with the option to shapeshift a bit
4. Focus lies on massive world and guild combat, and guild PvP


so yeah, will be dead in 6 months because they won't be able to balance this for the more chill players, the lifeblood of any game.

Early access packs in an mmo are a sign of death to me. Won't touch it. I remember when this forum was all a buzz about arch age, then BDO....

Arch age is dead and BDO is well... I don't think anyone talks about it anymore.
Same with new world....

[NekoNova]

pretty much.
It would be nice if these games tried to add something new and innovative to the mix, but from going over their website, there was literally nothing that caught my attention.

[Malthir]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

6 months, you're feeling generous. I played the open beta, the combat was garbage, melee was clunky and un responsive animations didn't flow smoothly, add in the cash show and p2w I don't think it will make 3m.

Yes take notes from a game that plays completely differently from the tab-target MMO that is FFXIV

Tbf it is also a tab target game, they just added an action cam that alot of games have done now days. What amazes me is that this is the company that gave us GW2 many many years ago and somehow managed to deliver a combat system of the same vein but infinitely worse than the one they delivered in GW2

[Nothv13]

Tbf it is also a tab target game, they just added an action cam that alot of games have done now days. What amazes me is that this is the company that gave us GW2 many many years ago and somehow managed to deliver a combat system of the same vein but infinitely worse than the one they delivered in GW2

Even more egregious to me is NCsoft apparently won their lawsuit with Bluehole studios over TERA and thus have access to TERA's combat system (which had actual action combat and actual healers in said action combat) and are doing nothing with it even though TERA "stole" it from a Lineage game NCsoft was working on.

[Aelin_Ashryver]

What amazes me is that this is the company that gave us GW2 many many years ago and somehow managed to deliver a combat system of the same vein but infinitely worse than the one they delivered in GW2

NCSoft is just the parent company of the one that made guild wars. Arena Net made guild wars, not ncsoft.