I played the Throne & Liberty beta last week and..

[Venarius]

.. despite not even having a distinct trinity system in place, healing in that game is engaging, unpredictable and fun.

Take notes CBU3, take notes.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

[Komarimono]

We must have played different games. Last thing I would want as a healer, is only two healing spells, one on a 10 second cooldown and the AoE one on a 40+ second cooldown, if running Wand and Tomb weapons. Even if go Bow and Wand, to get the regeneration, ya....

Def not what I'd want in FFXIV, nor would others want that, since not an action RPG.

[NekoNova]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

1. Early Access Packs
2. Custom currency Lucene
3. Everyone plays generic human with the option to shapeshift a bit
4. Focus lies on massive world and guild combat, and guild PvP


so yeah, will be dead in 6 months because they won't be able to balance this for the more chill players, the lifeblood of any game.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

1. Early Access Packs
2. Custom currency Lucene
3. Everyone plays generic human with the option to shapeshift a bit
4. Focus lies on massive world and guild combat, and guild PvP


so yeah, will be dead in 6 months because they won't be able to balance this for the more chill players, the lifeblood of any game.

Early access packs in an mmo are a sign of death to me. Won't touch it. I remember when this forum was all a buzz about arch age, then BDO....

Arch age is dead and BDO is well... I don't think anyone talks about it anymore.
Same with new world....

[NekoNova]

pretty much.
It would be nice if these games tried to add something new and innovative to the mix, but from going over their website, there was literally nothing that caught my attention.

[Rehayem]

Remember this is NCSOFT we're talking about, and they actually do know how to make content or classes enganging. Problem is, it's a Korean MMORPG, meaning it's going to be pay 2 win from the start.

The Auction House (Marketboard) is completely reliant on a currency called Lucent. You can only get this currency by using your wallet, or doing PvP castle sieges at max level. The game is entirely focused on guild wars, meaning the top guild will hold all castles at one point and you won't be able to get stuff done because those don't accept weak players. There's also other methods to farming it in game that I've found here.

The streamer Kanon has been advocating for the game to be less p2w in the West, but we know it's very unlikely to be so. He even attended one of the dev meetups and told them what Western audience already thinks about it: p2w garbage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go06gADja_Q

People will play it because the market desperately needs another MMORPGs to compete with the "Big 5". Game might not last long in the West because of the entire Lucent system.

[Inputnamehere]

I've playered a few KR MMOs before and I really don't enjoy "going to work", or obsessive PvP. At least Final Fantasy allows me to chill when I want to.

But I do agree healing in FF feels off. It's boringly scripted. Well, everyone is scripted.

[AddictedToWitches]

Yes take notes from a game that plays completely differently from the tab-target MMO that is FFXIV

[Malthir]

Is it also a giant cash grab with $200 pre-order packs and will be dead in 6 months or?

6 months, you're feeling generous. I played the open beta, the combat was garbage, melee was clunky and un responsive animations didn't flow smoothly, add in the cash show and p2w I don't think it will make 3m.

Yes take notes from a game that plays completely differently from the tab-target MMO that is FFXIV

Tbf it is also a tab target game, they just added an action cam that alot of games have done now days. What amazes me is that this is the company that gave us GW2 many many years ago and somehow managed to deliver a combat system of the same vein but infinitely worse than the one they delivered in GW2