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    [Request] More Au Ra representation on next expansion?

    Hello, hopefully this post won't come up as too dumb for even asking.

    But i really wish next expansion would try to include more Au Ra NPCs into the main story, as i feel they've been kinda under represented, or worse, most of the ones that appear throughout quest die.


    -Yugiri was the first Au Ra character to appear in the story, but her relevance to the MSQ is very minimal most of the time, and in Stormblood, she sadly doesn't tag along with us that much despite a lot of the promotional art giving her a big focus.
    -Most Xaela characters are usually relegated to the Azim Steppe, having only very sparce instances of Xaela NPC outside it.
    -The sorrow of Werlyt had a big focus Au Ra NPCs, but sadly, it came at the cost of having to see most of them die
    -Ahewann is initially shown as a possible important Au Ra NPC, and one in a leading position too! Which was exciting, but sadly, he dies too.
    -One could count Varshahn, but to be honest it feels like a cop-out answer as hisbody is just a vessel and not actually an Au Ra

    Now Dawntrail has a big focus on a region where there isn't a single Au Ra to be seen, which while i can 100% understand, i think it's a shame we don't have a single recurring Au Ra character to hang out with. So my hope (or wish) is that hopefully in the post-MSQ or simply the next expansion, more Au Ra characters can be presented to give representation of the race. As the few ones we have either have been written out of the story like Yugiri, or have been killed.

    Mind you, this is not a criticism towards Dawntrail for their complete lack of them, but just my wishful thinking as i am a huge Au Ra nerd and i kinda wish we were given more love in the MSQ
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    I agree that there needs to be more race representation.

    I explored Solution 9 yesterday and dind't see a single Au'ra.
    Even the Miqo'te were quite a few between.

    It could be reasoned that those died when that shard was ravaged by lightning or rejoined if it was but at least I would like in game telling and maybe one or two quests about that stuff.

    I think there are a bit too much Hyur sometimes and I wished there was more diversity.

    Did we ever really have a Duskwhight somewere in the story other then the lancer questline?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I agree that there needs to be more race representation.

    I explored Solution 9 yesterday and dind't see a single Au'ra.
    Even the Miqo'te were quite a few between.

    It could be reasoned that those died when that shard was ravaged by lightning or rejoined if it was but at least I would like in game telling and maybe one or two quests about that stuff.

    I think there are a bit too much Hyur sometimes and I wished there was more diversity.

    Did we ever really have a Duskwhight somewere in the story other then the lancer questline?
    Solution 9/heritage found didn't have any yeah. Seems to be a mix of them not being Tural natives or alexandrian natives. I dont' think I saw any roes there either and the miqo'te/hrothgar/viera seem to generally be Turalia with mostly hyur and elezen as alexandrians as far as I've been able to tell.

    There were a good number of au ra around in SB and then in EW in Radz at hahn though yeah I guess they generally weren't main characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    Did we ever really have a Duskwhight somewere in the story other then the lancer questline?
    I think a couple of the Heavens' Ward were Duskwights, but it's never relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
    I agree that there needs to be more race representation.

    I explored Solution 9 yesterday and dind't see a single Au'ra.
    Even the Miqo'te were quite a few between.

    It could be reasoned that those died when that shard was ravaged by lightning or rejoined if it was but at least I would like in game telling and maybe one or two quests about that stuff.

    I think there are a bit too much Hyur sometimes and I wished there was more diversity.

    Did we ever really have a Duskwhight somewere in the story other then the lancer questline?
    I mean it is explicitely stated that the only residents of Alexandria were Hyur, Elezen, and Lalafells.

    Miqo'te and Viera were scooped up when the dome appeared.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I mean it is explicitely stated that the only residents of Alexandria were Hyur, Elezen, and Lalafells.

    Miqo'te and Viera were scooped up when the dome appeared.
    Well, you seem familiar.

    Also, au ra have a whole zone for themselves, and it's lore accurate that Xaela concentrate there. Raen are in Thavnair and Hingashi, that's also lore accurate. Not every race will be everywhere.

    Meanwhile, we still haven't seen anything for Hellguard roes or Duskwights, and the lore of miqo'te has barely been explored this xpac.

    As a lalafell who keeps winning lorewise I say, let others have the spotlight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    Also, au ra have a whole zone for themselves, and it's lore accurate that Xaela concentrate there. Raen are in Thavnair and Hingashi, that's also lore accurate. Not every race will be everywhere.
    Like i mentioned before, i'm mostly talking about MSQ characters, not representation as NPCs in the world.
    Duskwights at the very least have finally gotten just a tiny bit of representation with the whole solution 9 elezen folk being Dusk, this is not saying other races shouldn't get represented just cuz i want Au Ra story characters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelgumi View Post
    Like i mentioned before, i'm mostly talking about MSQ characters, not representation as NPCs in the world.
    Duskwights at the very least have finally gotten just a tiny bit of representation with the whole solution 9 elezen folk being Dusk, this is not saying other races shouldn't get represented just cuz i want Au Ra story characters.
    There have been many au'ra MSQ characters. *Many.* Even in EW alone. I know it's been a few years since SB but Sadu, Cirna, and Magnai all have frequently reappeared in MSQ for a start.

    I get the passion, I've been a loud outcryer for hellsguard rep for 10 years for likewise just wanting to see More, but you can't be that blind to the amount of tangible, namable characters who're au'ra that've been in the MSQ. No, you cannot argue that Vrtra's simulacrum isn't representation because guess what: he was made that way to suit both his cover and because it made him naturally fit in with Ahewann. The amount of them in sidequests too is quite a large sample size as well.

    They are over-represented. Let other races shine for a bit. Let the new lore for existing ones relevant to a whole new continent actually develop as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gelgumi View Post
    Like i mentioned before, i'm mostly talking about MSQ characters, not representation as NPCs in the world.
    Duskwights at the very least have finally gotten just a tiny bit of representation with the whole solution 9 elezen folk being Dusk, this is not saying other races shouldn't get represented just cuz i want Au Ra story characters.
    An entire zone dedicated to xaela customs and society it's far more than anyone could ask for and on top of that, they had rep during the campaing in Garlemald, the only ones close to that are lalafell with alo alo, and if we're using your argument, then we got shafted too on that regard since alo alo is not part of the msq.
    Meanwhile, we got one npc duskwight and a villain in a job quest back in ARR And hellguards? Do they even exist?

    When we go to areas where isolationist people roam, then we'll see them again, but so far, they had a good run.
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    I think the thing is that we know that Au Ra on the Source originate from Othard (and later migrated to Werlyt, Terncliff, and Thavnair) so we're not going to see any of them in the far west unless they're foreigners. Just like how you won't ever see Miqo'te or Elezen in Hingashi unless they're sailors or tourists.

    Alexandria's native races are Hyune (Hyur), and Eldite (Elezen) with Milala (Lalafell) arriving to their shard from the Source long ago. Modern Alexandria also has Shetona (Viera), Hhetsarro (Miqo'te), and Tonawawta (Hyur) because they happened to be natives of Yyasulani when they were absorbed into the nation of Alexandria.


    With the racial distributions of Tural and Alexandria set, we're probably not going to get a new prominent Au Ra NPC in Dawntrail. Erenville and Wuk Lamat are what they are likely because up until EW we didn't have any male Viera so we needed a prominent male Viera NPC and up until DW there were no Hrothgals. With a whole zone being devoted to Xaela, half a zone being devoted to a population of Raen, Werlyt being all about Au Ra, Thavnair being half Au Ra, a WAR quest arc revolving around a Xaela tribe, and a NIN quest arc revolving around Doman Raen, I think there's enough representation and stories and we can probably make room for others to get some time in the sun.

    Palace of the Dead should've been devoted to Duskwight but they were barely involved. Since Duskwight only exist in the Twelveswood and don't like living in the city, possible stories relating to them are slim. It could be argued that Limsa Lominsa is a Sea Wolf colony but we never get to see anything about their homeland in Aerslaent and there are stories that could be had there and no one ever talks about Sea Wolf culture while Hellsguard get a whole job despite us not having been to their homeland either.
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