Omicrons and The Endless (Do Endless Dream of Electric Sheep?)

[Turtledeluxe]

Because we were trying to find a peaceful solution first? The first thing we did upon arriving was confront her and ask her to stop until we could figure out a solution that would benefit all parties. She said "piss off, kupo" and started purging the memories that made her even remotely reasonable before initiating the countdown to her plan, leaving us little time for anything else. Because remember, the entire reason this topic keeps coming up is because some players are upset that we "killed" the Endless without bothering to find a solution, completely ignoring the fact that we did try, were immediately rebuffed, and then put on a strict timer where the only solution really available to us was to alt+F4 the Endless.

Us defeating her had everything to do with the fate of Living Memory and the Endless. There was no way to stop her without "killing" the Endless at the same time. Sphene was sustained by the Meso Terminal. The Meso Terminal in turn ran everything else in the Living Memory. The Endless were going to "die" no matter what we did. Hell, even if we rolled over and let Sphene have her way, the Endless were on borrowed time anyway. The whole point of contention is the system was unsustainable and the twisted reasoning of her programming wouldn't allow her to see it or care. Even when Wuk Lamat managed to Talk no Jutsu her personality back, Sphene doubled down on her position.

She didn't notice at first, because as the story points out, she was busy with the calculations required to put her plan into action.

And they did mention why we chose the route of shutting down the Terminals first. First and foremost, the idea was hedging the bet that if Endless no longer existed, Sphene would abandon her goal. Unfortunately she didn't. Second, there was a fear that immediately attacking her directly would possibly force her to accelerate her timetable, giving us even less time to stop her.



Whatever. You folks are welcome to die on the hill that the Endless are alive and that we "genocided" them without making an effort to save them. That's you asserting your headcanon over what the game explicitly tells us about the situation, but you're free to reject that reality and substitute it with your own.

The characters in the game distinguish the difference between alive and dead. Cahciua is an Endless and establishes it quite directly. Sphene admits in dialogue that her perception of the Endless as living is simply based on being remembered. I wasn't aware that in the game or reality, we qualified being remembered as being alive.

She doesn't even refer to it as killing. She refers to it as erasure. They're literally data.


And just being able to still do new things doesn't change the fact that they are a data based instance of the original human soul.