Omicrons and The Endless (Do Endless Dream of Electric Sheep?)

[CuteBucket]

Either these were people and wiping them out should have been treated with way more gravity or they were nothing and all the time effort we put towards appeasing them made no sense. Both can't be true at the same time.

This. This is my main take away about Living memory, and something I put in another thread about this topic (I can't keep track of them all). My point in making the whole "Are they alive or not?" checklist was that it doesn't really matter, because the heart of the issue is that the writers couldn't decide if the Endless were real people or not. If you believe the Endless are real people, then the way they are treated by the narrative is terrible and doesn't engage at all with the moral quandaries of the subject. If you believe the Endless are not real people, then all of our faffing around in Living Memory to try and appease AI ghosts is a pointless waste of time that doesn't serve the narrative at all. By either interpretation, the writing and narrative failed. That is the real problem at the heart of Living Memory, not whether the Endless are alive, dead, real, fake, people, or not people. No matter how you interpret it, it still sucks and is still bad writing at its core.

[LuciferMournstar]

This. This is my main take away about Living memory, and something I put in another thread about this topic (I can't keep track of them all). My point in making the whole "Are they alive or not?" checklist was that it doesn't really matter, because the heart of the issue is that the writers couldn't decide if the Endless were real people or not. If you believe the Endless are real people, then the way they are treated by the narrative is terrible and doesn't engage at all with the moral quandaries of the subject. If you believe the Endless are not real people, then all of our faffing around in Living Memory to try and appease AI ghosts is a pointless waste of time that doesn't serve the narrative at all. By either interpretation, the writing and narrative failed. That is the real problem at the heart of Living Memory, not whether the Endless are alive, dead, real, fake, people, or not people. No matter how you interpret it, it still sucks and is still bad writing at its core.

Yeah, just a giant plot hole because if Cahciua had just told us about Living Memory, how it works, ect. We could have went up to Sphene, (before she went full Computer Program and would actually converse with us), and proposed other possible solutions to the problem. Though NOPE, she just kept her mouth shut about where she was and what was going on. The writers for SOME REASON decided "Let's have Cahciua deny critical, need to know information that could enable us to possibly help cause... reasons."

All I can really think of at this point was Cahciua was a bitch. She was selfish cause she, "didn't want to be tied to one place", so she wanted Living Memory shut down. That way she "could be free" and decided "The rest of those in Living Memory, yeah, I couldn't care less if they fade with me. I want out." Or as so many of EMPHATICALLY pointed out, she didn't consider them actually alive or worth saving. "Feel bad for them sure, but it's not worth even trying." Like she's the only voice in Living Memory that matters.