Please bring tank swaps to normal content

[Morphiana]

There has become less and less of a reason to have two tanks in 8 man parties for normal content (trials, raids, 24mans).

In current content unless your MT dies you are just a meaty DPS. Sure, we occasionally have a double tank buster but that just means I have to use mitigation on one move every 3 minutes or so. Without ad management or a tank swap thrown into the fight, it is not enough.

So why bring back tank swapping?

1.) If you are playing a tank, you probably want to tank. Unfortunately, in normal content most people do not ask if others want a turn and take over as the MT for the entire instance (this is an issue in 24 mans mainly). In 8 man trials / raids it is whoever pulls first or whoever puts tank stance on first.

If you had more tank swapping then it makes no difference who starts or attempts to monopolize the role.

2.) It gives the tanks something to do other than being a DPS who has to use a mitigation button sometimes. It let's us be more engaged in a battle.


And if we brought it back? Do not let people use mitigation to get out of swapping, because everyone will immediately do that thus making the swap mechanic pointless.

Use variety to force the swap such as the boss putting a status effect on the player that removes all emnity from that tank for 1 minute. What if the new tank dies during that and the old MT cannot get threat break? Build in a status effect that negates the enmity debuff upon witnessing the other tank die or have an emergency mechanic such as letting anyone sacrifice 99% of their HP to a entity in the battle that will once per instancs force the boss to attack a dummy of some sort for 10 seconds while you get people back up.

Alternatively, you could "jail" the MT along with a random DPS / healer for an ad to be dealt with elsewhere or have them go through a puzzle / operate some robot, etc. Things Alexander did on normal. You could also just have the third tank buster without a tank swap 1 hit KO the tank no exceptions.

You could even have it so every double tank buster lowers the MT's enmity but increases the OT's and during the fight the boss is immune to provoke.

Maybe it is not just tank swapping though. You could have the OT using a raid action to shield the party or things like that.

All of this is simply to say... Please give off tanks more to do in normal content that had 2 or more tanks involved.

[wildvenonat]

I've met too many people who can't handle tank swaps.

I'd far prefer more fights that give each tank a job to do so that there isn't a main tank or an off tank; everyone has something to tank.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

I've met too many people who can't handle tank swaps.

I'd far prefer more fights that give each tank a job to do so that there isn't a main tank or an off tank; everyone has something to tank.

I mean if you coddle players like this, how do you expect them to learn or improve, this is such a bad take. Tank swaps have always been a staple practice in multi-tank content. Not like tank swapping is difficult to execute either. More normal mode content having tank swaps would be more positive gameplay experience for tanks.

[CKNovel]

I've met too many people who can't handle tank swaps.

I'd far prefer more fights that give each tank a job to do so that there isn't a main tank or an off tank; everyone has something to tank.

That means it's time to teach them.
Yoshida removed role actions and the need of leveling PLD so we could easily tank swap.

Let's put this in use and brings adds to tank, double bosses, tank buster swap!

[Reimmi]

I mean if you coddle players like this, how do you expect them to learn or improve, this is such a bad take. Tank swaps have always been a staple practice in multi-tank content. Not like tank swapping is difficult to execute either. More normal mode content having tank swaps would be more positive gameplay experience for tanks.

With how many tanks dont know how to do swaps in extreme PF's, they need to teach it in normal content.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

With how many tanks dont know how to do swaps in extreme PF's, they need to teach it in normal content.

Agreed 100% the more tank swaps they add in normal content the better, with real risk of the MT dying if the OT doesn't take over, not E4 normal where you can mit through.

A6 normal was the last real normal content that, forced swaps back in the day, even now you can mit through it.

Obviously where a tank eats too many vulns still a good idea to swap to take a burden off of healers, but that is more player skill issues than anything else

[Kaixern]

Would also love to see tank swaps not requiring the use of tank buster.

Like those mechanics when a boss hit you and places a stackable debuff increasing damage taken and every once in a while you have to swap with the tank.
(maybe a bit too much to ask)

Not the most original mechanic but could be a nice change once in a while.

[ForteNightshade]

I've met too many people who can't handle tank swaps.

I'd far prefer more fights that give each tank a job to do so that there isn't a main tank or an off tank; everyone has something to tank.

The reason they can't handle it is the game literally never asks them to in casual content. Even the one time they actually put a debuff which the MT took more damage (E4N), it was so negligible no one bothered after the first couple days. Their reluctance to put any sort of obstacle in front of players is partly why there's such a chasm in skill level.

[Ayche]

The game does not need to teach tank swaps.
We are perfectly capable of teaching others over the chat how and when to use provoke.

[Masekase_Hurricane]

I'm all for this.