Problem with toxic casual players on this forum

[Darkrai4014]

"Toxic" in this context has never had any actual definition. It started off as being a catchall for behavior a psychologist-turned-developer at Riot disapproved of and became a catchall for any behavior anyone disapproves of.

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[Darkrai4014]

non-argument
hardcore players now are truly battered housewives defending frustrating and unfun encounters just for the prestige of having cleared them.
When 99% of the people who flaunt it paid for clears to begin with, AKA most Legend players

What are your examples of "frustrating and unfun encounters"? I'm curious to know.

I ran through TEA when it was on content, as well as E8S and those were two of the most fun raid experiences I've had in the game, despite them allegedly being brutal.

[Darkrai4014]

Whoever is most toxic doesn't really matter when it's undeniably parsers who have driven job design for the most part, and casuals have affected normal encounter design at the most.

This is 100% the case by far.

[Blazen20]

I definitely agree with the Op, the community of this game has definitely led the game in a lot of bad directions over the years, and with the new out rage of content being too hard potentially adding another grim mark. But like a broken record, with bad comes some good. Overall it seems like the game is going in a good direction with both gameplay, and music, its just the story has taken a huge hit.

With major mechanics happening during the burst window of every class, does bring a bit of difficulty and class mastery back to the game. But we still have a whole expansion to still go threw and just see how much CB3 philosophy has truely evolved, and see how we can rightly criticize their poor decisions.

[Oku-1]

non-argument
hardcore players now are truly battered housewives defending frustrating and unfun encounters just for the prestige of having cleared them.
When 99% of the people who flaunt it paid for clears to begin with, AKA most Legend players

Have you ever stopped to consider that what you consider "frustrating and unfun" encounters plenty of other people find them engaging and fun? This just sounds like people who hate Souls games and so go "THIS IS OBJECTIVELY BAD AND UNFUN AND PEOPLE ONLY FORCE THEMSELVES TO PLAY IT SO THEY CAN BRAG ABOUT BEATING IT".

Like seriously if you don't like something that's fine, but stop trying to morally justify your position by convincing yourself everybody else is just lying to spite you. I promise you it's not that deep lol

[TBerry]

Have you ever stopped to consider that what you consider "frustrating and unfun" encounters plenty of other people find them engaging and fun? This just sounds like people who hate Souls games and so go "THIS IS OBJECTIVELY BAD AND UNFUN AND PEOPLE ONLY FORCE THEMSELVES TO PLAY IT SO THEY CAN BRAG ABOUT BEATING IT".

Like seriously if you don't like something that's fine, but stop trying to morally justify your position by convincing yourself everybody else is just lying to spite you. I promise you it's not that deep lol

Being a From-Soft Game doesn't mean it can't be bad or poorly received.

The second boss from Vanguard. That's not difficulty, that's just sensory overload.

[Erzaa]

To all the whiny people that are going to get triggered, it is what it is, but to those willing to seriously reflect on whether they want to be a winner or a loser:

"I HAVE X Y Z LIMITATION, EVERYTHING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO MAKE ME FEEL BETTER!" Oh yeah? Hellen Keller was blind, deaf, and mute... instead of being a cry baby demanding the world warp to her own situation, she realized that she was in for a hard life. harder than most could even fathom. Instead of folding like laundry, she rose to the occasion. Instead of her disabilities or limitations defining her, she defined her own existence. If you want me to pat you on the head and tell you that you're such a good boy, you're wrong. You aren't a cute doggo. It's level 90 to level 100 content. Grow up and realize that you're only a failure and you're only done when you say you are. Adversity is GOOD. Challenge is GOOD. Failure is GOOD...if you learn from these things. "IT GIVES ME ANXIETY SO IT SHOULD NOT EXIST!"

That's a weakling's mentality. If you were literally any other species, you'd be left to die in the wild. Do you think SO LITTLE of yourself and your own intelligence, capabilities, and limits that you would fold so easily? Look man...I've never healed seriously before...but I decided that I wasn't going to let myself be limited. I've healed and although I don't run the funny numbers machine, others did in my pug PFs, and was pleasantly surprised that I could heal on Sage and do it well enough to be complimented on it. I've mained Tank since Creator in Heavensward. I'm not letting anything tell me what I am capable of doing, except for myself.

Either get busy living, or get busy dying. Only you get to decide if you remain a failure or not. The world isn't pretty. It's not going to tell you that you're a good boy/girl and tuck you in at night. If you want to CALL YOURSELF an adult, you must ACT LIKE IT and RISE to the challenge.

It's level 90 to 100. It's not Satasha anymore. Difficulty SHOULD and WILL increase whether you like it or not. You do not have to participate. You can sit on the side lines and cry about how your disability or baldness or Taco Bell induced diarrhea is keeping you from clearing x y or z content...but it's not anything but your own mind. It's just that simple. So many people with limitations either humble themselves and realize when they are just not going to make it without some serious help, or, they give up and remain a failure. But you know what? If someone is eating floor while having a disability and voices that they want to keep trying? I will STAY IN THAT INSTANCE and MAKE ANOTHER if we time out because that person has decided that they are a winner, not a loser and they are a fighter, not a folder. They are willing to get in that arena, and I will stay with them as long as they want to keep trying. I respect people that fail and try again. I don't respect whiny kiddos that make everything into an excuse and why I should feel bad for them.

I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for your parents and ancestors. I feel bad for everyone that believed in you, supported you, loved you, and for all that love and support you have chosen to fold. To give in. To admit that you aren't even going to bother to try and fight. No. You're just going to roll over and cry about how bad you have it. Well, like I said before: You either get busy living, or get busy dying. I suppose that you've made up your mind. Feel free to join the rest of us that didn't decide to give up when you are over your pity party.

What utter drivel, masquerading as life advice, Jesus. Just pointless blabber, framed as "Pick yourself up by your bootstraps". It doesn't take a genius to know that going at full load, constant stress, is bad and will take years off your life.

Perhaps you should take your own advice and go live life in the real world, it's already hard enough; and realise that how someone else chooses to unwind after a long day, and what they find entertaining, is different, and everyone needs moments to de-stress.

Just because someone enjoys having an easier time in their entertainment and don't want to bang their heads against walls of difficulty during their game time, doesn't mean they're suddenly failures in life.

You're not special for overcoming a difficult instance. Unless you've cured cancer and I missed the press release and your Nobel prize, you're playing a video game, get over yourself.

[Lynaval]

To all the whiny people that are going to get triggered, it is what it is, but to those willing to seriously reflect on whether they want to be a winner or a loser:

*snip*

What a load of crap, sadly I am not able to downvote your bullshit comment.

[NekoNova]

I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for your parents and ancestors. I feel bad for everyone that believed in you, supported you, loved you, and for all that love and support you have chosen to fold. To give in. To admit that you aren't even going to bother to try and fight. No. You're just going to roll over and cry about how bad you have it. Well, like I said before: You either get busy living, or get busy dying. I suppose that you've made up your mind. Feel free to join the rest of us that didn't decide to give up when you are over your pity party.

It's a videogame m8, not a career you will impress someone with.

[Kaurhz]

I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for your parents and ancestors. I feel bad for everyone that believed in you, supported you, loved you, and for all that love and support you have chosen to fold. To give in. To admit that you aren't even going to bother to try and fight. No. You're just going to roll over and cry about how bad you have it. Well, like I said before: You either get busy living, or get busy dying. I suppose that you've made up your mind. Feel free to join the rest of us that didn't decide to give up when you are over your pity party.

LOL what even is this.

Mum look, I finally cleared Strayborough Deadwalk in FFXIV, are you and our ancestry proud of me yet?

Surely you weren't writing this with a straight face. I think most parents and ancestry aren't going to be proud of pixels (or care for that matter), whether that's for clearing them or not clearing them.

Sorry but it just ain't that deep. It doesn't apply to RL. Nobody is going to care, nobody is going to be impressed, nobody is going to be disappointed. It's a video game.