Problem with toxic casual players on this forum

[Turtledeluxe]

Whoever is most toxic doesn't really matter when it's undeniably parsers who have driven job design for the most part, and casuals have affected normal encounter design at the most.

Casuals have in no way affected high end raiding whether it's encounter or job design and you know it.

[Striker44]

Story is bad though.

You're making broad statements here heh

Seeing these two sentences in the same post is amusing.

No, the story is not "bad." It's not "good," either. Can we please stop conflating our own personal opinions with objective facts. People complaining about the story would get taken much more seriously if they could both do this and stop resorting to absurd hyperbole.

[Xuled]

Are you a ShB starting player? This has been an issue since ARR LOL

[Althanash]

DTs MSQ was tedious.

Dungeons are just a slow drag but that's preference. I'd rather be doing a raid or a trial.

Bozja was also just as tedious.

[Kuroka]

I got a big advice for these kind of player, you dont like Raids? You think they are too hard? Dont play em, Ex Trials too hard? Dont play em, let other people have fun too, its not only about you and your need to get everything on the easiest mode ever.

Id rather suggest em to LEAVE THE GAME, mostly they are a smal vocal minority that its detrimental for the games health...

[UNDEAD10000]

I feel like since DT released there has been a huge problem on this forum of toxic casual players. The casual playerbase in this game tends to want the whole game catered to them and cause a fuss when they perceive something in the game that isn't. Examples include complaining ultimate content is taking too much dev time and axolotl mount needs savage completion among others.

Since DT these people are becoming out of control and we need to be careful what feedback the dev team are taking from this. If you read this forum then every duty would be tuned to very easy and the dungeons would be walking simulators.

You can spot these people easily by the amount of threads complaining that dungeons are too hard, story is bad, and complaining about the graphics update.

This part of the playerbase doesn't understand that Stormblood was the best expansion content and job balance wise, and the constant complaining at the time that it was bad is what led to the jobs being the way they are now. Stormblood job design was on the whole pretty peak, but the large amount of players complaining about the skill gap meant we have the job gameplay we do now. They complained about fantastic content like eureka and bozja and that's what led to the relics becoming a shop purchase.

You don't see much dissenting opinion on here because you get shot down and dog piled by the toxic casual brigade who will not accept that the majority of the playerbase is currently having a blast playing DT. Most of the people I know enjoyed the story and the ones that didn't enjoy it were able to give nuanced reasons why and not just "WUK LAMAT BAD LOL"

Please dont let this forum be representative of the playerbase as a whole. I hope yoshi p does not use this feedback to neuter the game even more,.

Sorry for being casual player and i will never post my opinions and feedbacks in forums again.

[SillyCrow]

The only thing I sorta agree on is about the weird people who obsess about the politically-correct consulting firm or whatever.

There's also some people here that attack directly SE employees and voice actors (no I'm not talking about actual criticism, talking about direct insults about their appearances, perceived/speculative beliefs or political leanings, etc). These people should just get thrown out if they haven't been already.

[SongOfTheWind]

This era of misusing therapeutic terminology is getting tiresome.
Disagreeing does not equal to “toxic” Labelling a group of people you have a disagreement with on certain things as ‘toxic’ is not getting us anywhere as a society also. And most importantly - the moment you use “these people” in your argument is the time to rethink the whole point.

[hynaku]

All I want is main story content to be easy enough to complete. I could care less about raids, high end dungeons, or ex primals because I never run them. That's not toxic to ask for something that simple. This expansion been very hard when have bad hands and wrists that don't move fast enough for the new mechanics they added.

[caffe_macchiato]

It's so funny seeing people project about "toxic" casuals who are "out of control" when they're the ones spamming new threads complaining about complainers. We have dozens of threads solely dedicated to "fighting" the evil "toxic casuals". I have seen no more than five posters who have sensible criticisms of the content and hundreds who are attacking those posters. You can't even mention the netcode without getting told to uninstall and seek psychiatric treatment. Why is Final Fantasy XIV like this in 2024? Something snapped. You all weren't spamming the forums years ago when content was in faceroll mode. In fact, people criticizing Endwalker were also insulted just like Dawntrail critics are now. Two sides of the same coin, you and the "toxic casuals" are the same.