Ten Chi Jin will always hold Ninja back

[Delphinus]

Its a cool move, dont get me wrong but there is to many burst windows where you are moving and a long pause like that with a Non flexible window to use it will always hold Ninja back in savage. Either make it huge like Pictos puddle where you can use the mudras inside of it or just make it so you can freely move during the mudra casting portion of it while leaving the initial root from casting it intact. our burst window is busy enough already.

[Raikai]

I agree... The idea is nice on paper, but it makes me think if they even consider TCJ when they design the 2 minute marks.

The action feels like a relic of a different encounter design era, but if they'd even consider a rework, can we trust that the developers are going to change it in a way that accomodates today's design standards without dumbing it down?

[AvoSturmfaust]

Disagree, TCJ is good how it is, there was not one Situation in EW where i had trouble to use it during the Burstwindow.

[Stasya]

Disagree, TCJ is good how it is, there was not one Situation in EW where i had trouble to use it during the Burstwindow.

Playing in dungeon once does not count

[AvoSturmfaust]

Playing in dungeon once does not count

Glad i cleared all 3 Tiers with 3 different chars, so yea only dungeon ofc.

[Delphinus]

You cant slide it or move while using it. Either make it so you can move somehow while using it or give it and Mesui a 110 second cooldown incase you need to delay it or use it earlier during your burst window.

[Stasya]

You cant slide it or move while using it. Either make it so you can move somehow while using it or give it and Mesui a 110 second cooldown incase you need to delay it or use it earlier during your burst window.

At the very least it should be something like movement with heavy debuff, standing still TCJ is outdated design when SE pushes mechanics in 2 min burst

[Equitable_Remedy]

I like the fact that NIN has this unique thing—a melee that turret-casts spells once every two minutes—that you need to work around. I get that you don't like dropping TCJ, but the solution to that doesn't have to be removing all limitations. To borrow a quote from Mass Effect 2:

All... advancement due to intellegence overcoming, compensating, for limitations. Can't carry a load, so invent wheel. Can't catch food, so invent spear. Limitations. No limitations, no advancement.

[Vatom]

I just wish it went back to double dmg but one can dream

[Miki_L]

Movement restriction on a powerful ability is not a bad idea. Considering Ninja has so many ranged tools, having some friction in its kit is somewhat necessary. It was even worse when also had assassinate with its own animation lock.

I think the issue isn't with Ten Chi Jin itself but rather the fact that due to SE's brilliant job design of centering half a job's kit into a few 2 min burst abilities, there are many other rigid abilities that require TCJ to be used at specific times. Meisui and Tenri exacerbate this. Meisui itself has a buff on top of its own effect, and now with Raijus you also want to spend the one you get from TCJ in your burst as well. TCJ is responsible for so much of your output that it feels terrible when you mess it up due to its inherent clunkiness or due to a mechanic you can't avoid.