Warrior Rework to Balance the job

[Ramiee]

HEY WAR IS UNDERPOWERED!!!
PLD has ranged moves!? WTF where's WARs ranged combo this isn't balanced at all also wtf PLD has another raid mitigation!? Give WAR one too no one will pick WAR when PLD has two raid mits!!
I've noticed that SCH and AST both have raid buffs, buddy Tanks are also supports where's WARs raidbuffs!? Why would anyone take WAR when it does has no raid buffs!?!
What the hell! look at SAM and VPR they do so much more damage then WAR. WAR needs to do the same amount of damage as SAM otherwise no one would ever take WAR into content! Where the hell is the balance!?

[Crafoutis]

I really don't want non-WAR mains coming in and trying to direct how WAR is played to be honest.

I love WAR, it's my hands down favorite job to play, and without it being how it is, and has been for almost ten years (braindead, sustain, unga bunga), I literally wouldn't be paying to play the game, or have my extra retainer slots, or buying all manner of goodies on the mogstation optional store.

WAR being simple is why I end up giving Square Enix a lot of money.

[Ramiee]

Honestly It would be funny if self sustain on warrior got completely destroyed just to see war mains go berserk on the forums.
Literally think it would be the end of the world for some people, it would be like Sam players seeing mch get buffed to do as much damage as them.

[CKNovel]

Honestly It would be funny if self sustain on warrior got completely destroyed just to see war mains go berserk on the forums.
Literally think it would be the end of the world for some people, it would be like Sam players seeing mch get buffed to do as much damage as them.

Here's my prediction:
-People who played WAR for its easy sustain will move to PLD.
-People who played WAR because they liked it will keep playing WAR and not caring as 80% of the job's active sustains remains
-Healers will celebrate and have a placebo effect that it is effective, despite WAR still not dropping below 50%

[Tunda]

To balance warrior even further

If warrior hp below 50% it should insta die as it is a skill issue

[VentiMocha]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

[PyurBlue]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

WAR doesn't enable more damage in dungeons since the healing is all OGCD. All it does it bore the healer to death.

Fun is more important than setting an arbitrary DPS cap anyway.

[Rithy255]

WAR doesn't enable more damage in dungeons since the healing is all OGCD. All it does it bore the healer to death.

Fun is more important than setting an arbitrary DPS cap anyway.

Pretty much agree, Most healers will certainly not need to GCD heal a tank like Paladin or Gunbreaker (or even a good dark knight), Warrior on the other hand you dont even need any ogcd's so healers lose out on resource management

I find it funny that people will defend warrior by saying "it doesn't effect savage so its ok!" but the thing is most people are Casual players, a lot of people are going to be put off healing by Warrior, leveling in dungeons is miserable if you have a warrior because you only need to press Glare/broil you don't need to really pay attention or learn anything about healing, which is contrasted by content down the line being more punishing when you do actually need to heal.

I'm not a advocate against all non healer healing, I think it's fine to have some forms of self/target even group healing in some rare instances, But I think theirs a cap where certain jobs can be and to me warrior is a prime example of a job who breaks that cap by a mile just due to how blood whetting scales with each enemy, I want a healthy game for all content and part of that is removing blood whetting per enemy, making it so you only heal once regardless of the amount of enemies, fun thing is this doesn't effect raids either.

[Zairava]

There's a whole lot of opinion having in this thread about why Bloodwhetting is overpowered in dungeons when the real test is clearly how they do in savage/ex content.

Oh, wait, this just in. Every tank is good and fine and they're all viable. Stop complaining about not having to heal a warrior in a dungeon and enjoy the glory of being able to do more damage.

Oh yeah..the glory of spamming one damage spell... Tell me more how healers are supposed to be happy dps'ing with the most lobotomized dps kit possible in the entire game, without even mentioning their role being basically invalidated when they have a Warrior in dungeons.

If a WHM's holy stun never had any fall-off and they could just stun the mob pack forever I wouldn't feel very needed either.

Raw Intuition/Bloodwhetting being op in dungeons isn't really arguable. It's only balanced in 8-man content

[Alice_Rivers]

If a WHM's holy stun never had any fall-off and they could just stun the mob pack forever I wouldn't feel very needed either.

Can I have this? Can I? Pretty please?