Is 2.0 a new game? a rebranding attempt? an update? an expansion? a fix? What Is It?

**xXHalloweenTrixXx** · 07-30-2012 04:28 PM

How is it exactly a new game if they are redoing old maps, keeping the same back story of the original FF14... Seems more like an expansion to me. If It was in fact a new game, there would be no link between the current FF14 and the new 2.0, it would be a completely fresh start for everyone within a new world not linked to the previous. I understand they will be adding more features as well, but isn't that what an expansion is about?

**Azurymber** · 07-30-2012 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by xXHalloweenTrixXx

How is it exactly a new game if they are redoing old maps, keeping the same back story of the original FF14... Seems more like an expansion to me. If It was in fact a new game, there would be no link between the current FF14 and the new 2.0, it would be a completely fresh start for everyone within a new world not linked to the previous. I understand they will be adding more features as well, but isn't that what an expansion is about?

I would argue:
new world
new battle mechanics
new graphics
new stats
new story
and the inability to do any old content

would make it a new game, as opposed to just a redesign or an expansion.
But redesign would be much better suited.

**Dawiichan** · 07-30-2012 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by Azurymber

I would argue:
new world
new battle mechanics
new graphics
new stats
new story
and the inability to do any old content

would make it a new game, as opposed to just a redesign or an expansion.
But redesign would be much better suited.

Wrong. Same world, and same story. They already announced that they were continuing the old story in 2.0. Also, we don't know at all if it's new stats or not. All we know is that stacking stat materia won't be as potent in 2.0.

**Vice** · 07-30-2012 05:06 PM

You're a pestilence and a key reason why this community is perceived in an ill light.

**Malix** · 07-30-2012 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Vice

You're a pestilence and a key reason why this community is perceived in an ill light.

Rokien 2.0?

**Renshi** · 07-30-2012 05:29 PM

Is it too hard to think that 2.0 is Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn?
Who cares if it's a new game or a shotgun that shoots sandwiches. It is Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, and that's all you need to know. Enjoy it along with your sandwiches! *shots~*

**Azurymber** · 07-30-2012 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Vice

You're a pestilence and a key reason why this community is perceived in an ill light.

How is it my fault people keep bumping my threads that have died to older pages. I rarely ever self-bump unless I'm responding to someone directing attacks or comments at me.

The final fight too hard thread was made when the fight came out, after i made the first strategy thread and posted the first basic info about the fight (since I watched blackmages fail to destroy meteors for hours on end). When i made the thread only a few groups had actually completed the fight. Not my fault 16000 people read it and 230 commented, and people keep bringing it up.

The website detrimental thread was created because the website really does suck from a marketing standpoint. As I run a very successful marketing business irl, it bothers me a bit when people make massive and easily avoidable marketing mistakes. I made this thread after roiken pointed out ign was calling the game rebranded (which is something you NEVER want to happen to your product. It makes you seem deceitful and diminishes your products reputation. Rebranding is essentially taking an existing product and changing the entire marketing strategy and brand. It's usually done if consumers lose confidence in a product or if the products brand is so old fashioned a facelift wont work).

Just because I have a few threads that bring up legitimate concerns (and garner a fair number of likes) doesn't make me bad or a troll.... If you bother to look at my history I've spent hours compling guides to help make this game more enjoyable for people because I genuinely want this game to be great and a huge success. Otherwise why would I have spent hours talking to every NPC in eorzea to complie a lore guide, exploring every nook and cranny not once but twice, writing 3 or 4 quite long solo guides, etc... I gain nothing from them. But they help people enjoy the game which is what i truly want.

If you don't like my threads, don't comment and bump them. But just because you disagree with me doesn't make me bad, and doesn't make my opinions wrong....

**AngelicBeing** · 07-30-2012 06:35 PM

Be objective, people. Regardless of who the OP is or their post history, they do make one good point.

SE's message to the global gaming community, that is, EVERYONE who plays video games and could potentially play 2.0, is still unclear. A majority simply don't understand what 2.0 is. You can't just point fingers and say "Oh, it's not SE's fault, IGN got it wrong" or whatever other excuse. If 2.0 is to be a success, the message needs to come across loud and clear, to the point that no one could every botch its delivery.

Every gamer should be able to hear about A Realm Reborn and know exactly what it is. Whether or not they give it a chance is another story. But they should know that it's an all-new experience, not the same failed MMORPG that XIV once was.

It's too soon to cry doom and gloom, to say SE has failed in delivering that message, but they do indeed need to solidify that message as they put forth news. So far none of the info released this year drives the point home to the gamers that are completely ignorant about FFXIV's ongoing development.

**lordvr** · 07-30-2012 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Why does any of this matter?

For one, "a new game" is metaphorical/rhetorical. It's not literally a new game, not even by a longshot. Even if everything was changed, it sitll has the same title, just with a subtitle tacked on.

I think the most accurate terms would be the ones SE itself has used "Redesign" or "revamp."It's not new, but it's not old either. It's not strictly a fix-up, either.

I don't think they're trying to sell it as an expansion. That wouldn't be a good way to market it. Outside of that, I'll just let the people at SE that know marketing handle it.

Everything isn't even being changed. It's getting new zones, new quests, a new ui, some battle tweaks, new graphics engine, and the rest of the stuff is staying the same except for primal fights and gc/ main story quests. What new content will actually be there at release besides crystal tower as far as we know?

**Punainen** · 07-30-2012 08:18 PM

Is this person paranoid or what? You realize you may have bought the game, but that doesn't mean you OWN the game. Stop barking orders as if you're CEO or something. SE isn't a government branch, it doesn't need whistle blowers.

There's more ways that a game can succeed than by conforming you YOUR personal standards (which seem preposterously high).

Do you think people are so stupid that they'll just get SOOO confused about whether 2.0 is technically an 'update' or a 'fix' that they'll run the opposite way rather than look around and FIGURE IT OUT??

It's also sort of ALL OF THE ABOVE.

Now please stop making extremely condescending threads about crap no one cares about.

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