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    In the past week I have heard 2.0 called
    "A Rebranding"
    "An Update"
    "An Expansion"
    "A fix for earlier problems"
    "A Redesign"
    and "A new game"

    SE needs to make it clear to the media what "A Realm Reborn" is, as anyone looking into it will be ultimately confused.
    Why does any of this matter?

    For one, "a new game" is metaphorical/rhetorical. It's not literally a new game, not even by a longshot. Even if everything was changed, it sitll has the same title, just with a subtitle tacked on.

    I think the most accurate terms would be the ones SE itself has used "Redesign" or "revamp."It's not new, but it's not old either. It's not strictly a fix-up, either.

    I don't think they're trying to sell it as an expansion. That wouldn't be a good way to market it. Outside of that, I'll just let the people at SE that know marketing handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    Idk, today I screamed to myself for about 5 minutes after reading something Rokien posted...
    Oh, that's just the tumor caused by Rokien pressing against your frontal lobe. We call it Rokienitis.
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    Love how posters devolve into attacking the poster instead of ignoring the threads in turn giving the poster no reason to stop making threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Love how posters devolve into attacking the poster instead of ignoring the threads in turn giving the poster no reason to stop making threads.
    This is assuming the poster will stop posting threads if we stop replying to them. Judging from the OP, I would say that they won't be happy with any condition of the game or it's marketing strategy, and we'll continue to hear from him regardless.

    In such a case, I would rather be vocal in presenting my opinion, especially because of the fact that his person does NOT speak for the entire community.
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    But people visiting ign for their gaming news won't see that.
    it's not the games fault that IGN is terrible journalism
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    Idk, today I screamed to myself for about 5 minutes after reading something Rokien posted...
    I think this one is just in my face more than Rokien, and I sometimes laugh at Rokien. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    You're looking at a topic made by someone who thinks they have more know how than the entire marketing department at SE.
    My left nut has better knowledge of marketing than SE. Seriously? They could have bled their FF fanbase dry if they would have thrown som money into TV advertising and spammed MMORPG.com etc. Even though 1.00 was a steaming pile they could have made a lot more money.

    Likewise we will see a similar lukewarm approach to advertising with the rerelease.

    SE isnt like Microsoft of Blizzard in terms of marketing, which I sometimes respect and sometimes abhor. Its cool to think they might want their game to speak for itself instead of shoving it down other peoples throats. But its an MMO the more people you get playing it, the more friends they will bring to it etc. its a good snowball strategy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    I'm getting a very strong "The game is going to fail because they won't give me the info now" vibe from nearly every single post made by this idiot.

    Yikes thats so venomous.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    Idk, today I screamed to myself for about 5 minutes after reading something Rokien posted...
    He is great isnt he?

    "Terrible but great" hehe

    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    Oh, that's just the tumor caused by Rokien pressing against your frontal lobe. We call it Rokienitis.

    Lol . I have it in my heart.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jynx View Post
    Love how posters devolve into attacking the poster instead of ignoring the threads in turn giving the poster no reason to stop making threads.
    Lifes grand isnt it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    This is assuming the poster will stop posting threads if we stop replying to them.
    You would be amazed at how fast someone stops making threads when they get no knee jerk responses.

    That or the people who share concerns or can actually debate properly instead of LOL Poster. How qui#kly and civil the threads come and go.
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    yeah honestly if you disagree with me instead of attacking me make a logical counterpoint. There is no point in raging over a forum thread. Plus if no one responds they die.
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    Mew!

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    re-designed from the guts out.
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