Localization Criticism

[Astrus]

So can you tell us what that residential block is named in JP, FR and DE that makes the EN localization so terrible?

In German the residential blocks are called "Wohnradius 9-14" and "Wohnradius 9-11" make of that information what you will.

When someone is deeply affected by it, it's usually because they're a victim, not just because they watched 9/11 on TV (if it were so, even I would be a victim, since I too watched the tower crumble live). It's baffling how some people pretend to be pitied over being shocked by watching the tragedy unfold, without even being an actual victim. If having seen the terrorist attack live still affects you to this day, 23 years after, without even being a direct victim, it's your problem, and you'll need counsel to cope with that. The rest of the world, in the meanwhile, goes on.

If something like this were enough to warrant making changes, the slippery slope would never end. Do you imagine censoring the siege of Tulliyolal because it might affect the sensibilities of Ukrainians or Palestinians? Because this is where this kind of take goes.

Also, jokes about 9/11 have been prevalent since, at the very least, 10 years ago, either doing black comedy or ridiculing some of the ludicrous conspiracy theories spawned around the incident.

Dismissing the impact seeing such an event happen live can have on people just because they weren't "directly" affected is a shitty take.
I've never set foot on US soil, so far at least, but I watched it happen live on TV. It shook me then, my mother watching with me cried.
Later in the day I found out I lost a friend in the attack, that certainly made matters worse.
That feeling of dread I felt while watching TV back then is going to stay with me, it comes back when my thoughts turn to the event, the loss of a friend still hurts.

With that said, I agree that the naming of that residential block isn't a huge issue.
Until this thread I didn't even make the connection and I have been personally affected by the event in question, even if indirectly, so it's not just me being a stupid foreigner who doesn't care.
If two numbers and a very vague resemblance cause issues you're dealing with full blown PTSD, anyone who has to deal with that has my heartfelt sympathy and I sincerely hope they have the specialist support they need to deal with it. The human brain is scarily good at pattern recognition so I'm not surprised people pick up references where there were none intended but I don't find chewing the localization team out for this particular coincidence is warranted.

[Alchemii]

Are we suppose to remove the numbers 9 and 11 from everything and not count them as numbers anymore because people want to automatically assume it will be a reference to something that happened 23 years ago.

Your a Johnny Somali fan aren't you? Probably laughed long and hard when he was in Japan.

"World War 2 happened 85 years ago, are we not suppose to say the names of the Cities" That what you sound like. A disrespectful child, wanting to make sure everyone is full aware of how disappointed their parents are in them.

In German the residential blocks are called "Wohnradius 9-14" and "Wohnradius 9-11" make of that information what you will.



Dismissing the impact seeing such an event happen live can have on people just because they weren't "directly" affected is a shitty take.
I've never set foot on US soil, so far at least, but I watched it happen live on TV. It shook me then, my mother watching with me cried.
Later in the day I found out I lost a friend in the attack, that certainly made matters worse.
That feeling of dread I felt while watching TV back then is going to stay with me, it comes back when my thoughts turn to the event, the loss of a friend still hurts.

With that said, I agree that the naming of that residential block isn't a huge issue.
Until this thread I didn't even make the connection and I have been personally affected by the event in question, even if indirectly, so it's not just me being a stupid foreigner who doesn't care.
If two numbers and a very vague resemblance cause issues you're dealing with full blown PTSD, anyone who has to deal with that has my heartfelt sympathy and I sincerely hope they have the specialist support they need to deal with it. The human brain is scarily good at pattern recognition so I'm not surprised people pick up references where there were none intended but I don't find chewing the localization team out for this particular coincidence is warranted.

I was gonna go back and get screenshots of this, but after a certain event the NPCs are no longer there. But right outside laying on the grass were 2 NPCs one saying "What a lovely morning isn't it?" and the other responding with "Yea, the breeze feels great". I'm still certain the devs didn't mean anything by this and it's all just a coincidence, but stuff like this is the actual reason you have Localization Teams. This is their actual jobs, they aren't translators. What their suppose to do is catch stuff like this and edit it so as to not touch sensitive or taboo topics for different regions.

[Nebelheim]

Your a Johnny Somali fan aren't you? Probably laughed long and hard when he was in Japan.

"World War 2 happened 85 years ago, are we not suppose to say the names of the Cities" That what you sound like. A disrespectful child, wanting to make sure everyone is full aware of how disappointed their parents are in them.

I don't know who that person is but people are looking way too deep into solution 9 and having 11 residential districts claiming the devs did it on purpose to hurt people intentionally or reference something when it's not the case. They didn't make solution 9 and having 11 districts to reference a terrorist attack as op was claiming in the thread and it's a stretch to believe they did that intentionally people need to really stop reaching and reading too much into things and making up some conspiracies.

[LuciferMournstar]

I don't know who that person is but people are looking way too deep into solution 9 and having 11 residential districts claiming the devs did it on purpose to hurt people intentionally or reference something when it's not the case. They didn't make solution 9 and having 11 districts to reference a terrorist attack as op was claiming in the thread and it's a stretch to believe they did that intentionally people need to really stop reaching and reading too much into things and making up some conspiracies.

"Just don't think about it"... "It's just a game bro!" ... You know, seems like an AWFUL LOT of "I doubt it was meant to reference that, it's just a game and was a total coincidence" going on in this expansion. At what point do people realize there is such a thing as one too many "coincidences" and realize that this is following a specific pattern.

[Nebelheim]

"Just don't think about it"... "It's just a game bro!" ... You know, seems like an AWFUL LOT of "I doubt it was meant to reference that, it's just a game and was a total coincidence" going on in this expansion. At what point do people realize there is such a thing as one too many "coincidences" and realize that this is following a specific pattern.

I'm pretty sure they didn't create solution 9 to make jabs at a horrific event but people are going to believe they did it intentionally regardless. If your going to make wild claims and conspiracies about all these "coincidences' and how solution 9 relates to 9/11 then at least provide evidence to back those claims up.

[Dovaah]

Please touch grass.

People like you would believe that the moon being a spaceship in ED means our moon is a mind control device.
You read way too much in something that is the very same in all languages.

Also, I'm curious of what you think is what is an "awful lot" of coincidences.

[Nebelheim]

Please touch grass.

People like you would believe that the moon being a spaceship in ED means our moon is a mind control device.
You read way too much in something that is the very same in all languages.

Also, I'm curious of what you think is what is an "awful lot" of coincidences.

Exactly I don't see how solution 9 has 'too many coincidences" for people to suddenly believe that solution 9 is tied to 9/11 terrorist attacks. Solution has nothing to do with 9/11 whatsoever but people will keep coming making wild claims in this thread that it "references" 9/11 and provide no evidence of it other then the numbers 9 and 11.

[LuciferMournstar]

Exactly I don't see how solution 9 has 'too many coincidences" for people to suddenly believe that solution 9 is tied to 9/11 terrorist attacks. Solution has nothing to do with 9/11 whatsoever but people will keep coming making wild claims in this thread that it "references" 9/11 and provide no evidence of it other then the numbers 9 and 11.

It's not just Solution 9, but many things over the whole expansion. Which, if you had bothered to read what I wrote wholly instead of skimming it, getting emotionally charged, and just running with your skimming, you would have noticed.

[LuciferMournstar]

Please touch grass.

People like you would believe that the moon being a spaceship in ED means our moon is a mind control device.
You read way too much in something that is the very same in all languages.

Also, I'm curious of what you think is what is an "awful lot" of coincidences.

As yes, the "touch grass" insult, coupled with some stupid ridiculous hyperbole. Then add in dismissive "it's just a coincidence bro" drivel. Why bother to explain anything when you're not going to listen to a word I have to say anyway.