Why aren't there Roulettes for the other PvP modes?

[niwaar]

Seriously Yoshi-P, why isn't there a Crystalline Content Roulette and a Rival Wings Roulette? If there was a roulette that gave significant XP and series XP for both of these game modes I might be convinced to try them and maybe I'd like them.

Rival Wings desperately needs a roulette to incentivize participation. I have yet to see a Rival Wings queue that is less 30minutes most of the time its far above the "more than 30m" mark. The only time its even worth doing is when there is a Moogle Tomes event that includes it.

Oh and bring back OG Carteneau already, its been out of the rotation for 2+ years now.

[Shikiseki]

I'd love to see a Crystalline Conflict map roulette that isn't bound to the 1:30h timer and has a little roulette bonus on top (like trials roulette maybe?)

Never really got into Rival Wings cause it feels like you need to read a 100 page manual to get into lol

Also Secure would be cool to have back, not sure what was bad with it, probably the current state of jobs maybe?

[Roguewaves]

Please give Rival Wings it's own Roulette or at the very least incorporate it as part of the FL roulette and just rename it as a PVP grandscale roulette so it's encompassing. It's so dumb how they've spent their time & resources into a game mode that has no incentive to be played.

[Mawlzy]

Please give Rival Wings it's own Roulette or at the very least incorporate it as part of the FL roulette and just rename it as a PVP grandscale roulette so it's encompassing. It's so dumb how they've spent their time & resources into a game mode that has no incentive to be played.

My guess is if you lumped all PvP roulettes together, the RW matches would be an absolute disaster. It's a niche mode in a niche mode. If people liked/understood it, the queues would pop.

[Plumerian_Ariadust]

My guess is if you lumped all PvP roulettes together, the RW matches would be an absolute disaster. It's a niche mode in a niche mode. If people liked/understood it, the queues would pop.

It probably would in the beginning but if the population gets introduced to it, they'd more or less learn it over time. Besides anyone who has an inkling of what a MOBA is would be right at home.
TBH, I'm having more fun in RW (during mogtroves) than FL where deathballing is the meta.

[Mawlzy]

It probably would in the beginning but if the population gets introduced to it, they'd more or less learn it over time. Besides anyone who has an inkling of what a MOBA is would be right at home.
TBH, I'm having more fun in RW (during mogtroves) than FL where deathballing is the meta.

That's fair. It is puzzling SQEX puts development time into this, then leaves this thumping great hurdle at the front door due to lack of resources explaining wth it is you're supposed to be doing. Equally I'm puzzled that enthusiasts (for RW and CC) haven't produced VODs to help get people involved.

[Mistress_Irika]

A roulette for Rival Wings would be nice. Even then, I'm not too sure how many would buy into it. Frontlines has way more to offer depending on what mode you're playing on. All Rival Wings has is a mount. As soon as majority got their mounts the mode got abandoned outside of tomestone events and discord sync queues. I would like for new achievements to be added alongside the roulettes, so that others have a better grasp on the mode instead of it not being easy to get into.

Equally I'm puzzled that enthusiasts (for RW and CC) haven't produced VODs to help get people involved.

There's not that much attention for PvP in my opinion. It's been like that for years. Raids are a popular watch despite a small playerbase doing them. Casual content is more popular to watch. Anyone doing just pure pvp content is going to struggle to get a large audience. Your high tier tournaments outside of the ones hosted by the devs is not going to outdo those that does raids in terms of views. It's just how it is. You need a resilient community, because right now too much attention is on crystal conflict and not enough on the other existing modes. I mean, we have a decent amount. It just needs to be bigger.

Speaking of which, I'm a bit shocked that a roulette is being asked for CC. I assumed that casual was fine. Did it stop getting pops recently?

[Chasingstars]

If people liked/understood it [RW], the queues would pop.

That doesn't make a lick of sense. People don't play it as much because there is no roulette for it. You think frontlines, a 72-player instance, would have nearly the same queue times without the roulette? It wouldn't. So a mode, that is 48-players, less players than frontlines, yeah no shock that it has longer waits. And also no roulette bonus to incentivize queuing for it. This is very much a service problem they have neglected and created. All its needs is a roulette.

[purgatori]

That doesn't make a lick of sense. People don't play it as much because there is no roulette for it. You think frontlines, a 72-player instance, would have nearly the same queue times without the roulette? It wouldn't. So a mode, that is 48-players, less players than frontlines, yeah no shock that it has longer waits. And also no roulette bonus to incentivize queuing for it. This is very much a service problem they have neglected and created. All its needs is a roulette.

Precisely. During peak times on Materia, Frontlines pops far quicker (< 5m) than CC does, and it's entirely due to the latter not having a roulette. When it comes to casual content, a lot of people(myself included, a lot of the time) don't even venture beyond the roulettes tab of the DF.

[Mawlzy]

That doesn't make a lick of sense. People don't play it as much because there is no roulette for it. You think frontlines, a 72-player instance, would have nearly the same queue times without the roulette? It wouldn't. So a mode, that is 48-players, less players than frontlines, yeah no shock that it has longer waits. And also no roulette bonus to incentivize queuing for it. This is very much a service problem they have neglected and created. All its needs is a roulette.

Okay, that's fair, but take a step back. There's an 86-page thread on this board complaining about how awful FL is, and around half the complaints are a direct result of there being a roulette, thereby populating the matches with players who are putting in no effort whatsoever. I've never played any volume of RW because I really can't figure out what the hell I'm meant to be doing and all these machines wandering around just don't appeal to me. But my guess is if you dumped rouletters into it, you would get more frequent matches, but of such a low quality we'd immediately have a "Rival Wings Sucks Megathread."

All that said, I'm always in favour of more options and agree it's puzzling SQEX hasn't tried to up the numbers beyond the inclusion in Mogtome events and Wondrous Tales.