Reconsidering the Removal of Energy Drain/Dissipation - A Note on Scholar

[Cypris_Laimon]

One of the original complaints for Shadowbringers' initial removal of Energy Drain for Scholar was that it caused an overflow of potentially unused aetherstacks. Now that people seemed to have eased their stance on this, with an example being Astrologian's typical opener calling for a fresh draw of cards after the application of only one, would people still be opposed to Energy Drain's removal/potential aetherstack overflow?

I'm not sure where in the minority or majority I am on this, but I find Energy Drain forcing a constant consideration of healing vs DPSing to be counter-intuitive, and not fun. Resources for optimizing outgoing damage on Scholar show an opener loaded with six energy drains. Having abilities like Dissipation, which was likely designed as an emergency fallback for outgoing heals where needed, is reduced to a DPS oGCD because of a single ability.

I think that, with the removal of the damage on Energy Drain or the removal of Dissipation, Scholar would feel much more coherent.

What are your thoughts on this?

[Sani2341]

I don't think people have 'eased their stance' on this.

If AST had something usefull to dump the cards in, and they'd still be dumped that might be a different argument. But they are just superflous single target heals.

There's also the fact SGE has to dump addersgal into overhealing for mp. Which people, afaik, don't like but begrudingly tolerate.

[Supersnow845]

I don’t really see the point of messing with SCH’s energy drain gameplay loop when if you don’t want to engage with it there is already ~~not SCH~~ SGE which is designed with this in mind

[Reinhardt_Azureheim]

Can we not touch Energy Drain while not just Scholar's, but every healer's damage kit for single target is as barren as it is?

Potency is low enough as is to make many Scholars primarily use them on supportive skills and only dump them before AF refresh. There is no need to get rid of gameplay potential for clever use of non-AF supportive skills and your co-healer's kit.

[Aravell]

I still don't understand why people put so much importance in maximising Energy Drains when each cast of Energy Drain is weaker than an uncomboed Aeolian Edge.

Losing 100 potency to heal doesn't even matter. You know what's a bigger DPS loss? A dead player.

[Sani2341]

I still don't understand why people put so much importance in maximising Energy Drains when each cast of Energy Drain is weaker than an uncomboed Aeolian Edge.

Losing 100 potency to heal doesn't even matter. You know what's a bigger DPS loss? A dead player.

Yes, but on the other hand 100 potency are still better than needless overheal. Or wasted resources.

[Ramiee]

It's quite literally the only form of optimisation left in SCH. That's why people want it to stay.

[Aravell]

Yes, but on the other hand 100 potency are still better than needless overheal. Or wasted resources.

I probably wasn't clear in my post. I'm not saying to remove it, I'm one of the people who will defend Dissipation and Energy Drain.

What I'm saying is I don't understand why people put so much importance in that 100 potency to the point where they say using any other Aetherflow ability "feels bad". It's not hard to hold on to Aetherflow while progging and only dump it when you need to refresh, that's a normal part of progging, learning the fight and all that.

[Connor]

Id support this if it got something else to spend extra Aetherflow on like a short duration single target damage buff (crit increase?).

I just find Energy Drain really boring tbh. Outside of savage/extreme/whatever you literally don’t need to use Aetherflow on heals (*laughs in 60s Recitation*). So your entire job gauge is dedicated to an ugly ability that’s literally 10 years old and doesn’t really add anything to the job unless you’re like, progging ultimates

[CaptainLagbeard]

Instead of removing Energy Drain, they should buff it as it is the only guaranteed way to actually use Aetherflows. It would be worse for SCH if you had nothing to heal and no way to use excess Aetherflows.