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  1. #11
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    Loggos's Avatar
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Twintania
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilimoLimomo View Post
    I think a lot of people forget that failing, learning, and improving are all important, enjoyable parts of the journey.
    I completely agree! I can't say much regarding external factors but I think the ingame culture also sometimes contributes to the fear of failure.

    Currently it feels like failure is not seen as an integral part of the learning process, ergo an expected part of your gameplay experience, but an undesired and unordinary one that should be avoided at all costs.
    The game is (supposedly) so easy that you can learn everything without any notable trouble, so dying is a sign of failure and regression (having to start over when you "should" have cleared something in one go), not a sign of making progress.

    I wish dying was considered part of the norm so we could have more of a "learning from failure" and "earning our victory" mentality in casual play (would also allow us to have a bit more challenge in casual mode) as opposed to "everything needs to be over as fast and frictionless as possible".
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  2. #12
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    Kokola Kola
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anemoshi View Post
    I think I cried even more times about how bad I was doing than the MSQ itself.
    y'all crying over your performance in a video game?
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  3. #13
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anemoshi View Post
    In a point in my life where I rarely leave the house or am able to do things to take care of myself, FF14 has given me the chance
    I can relate to video games giving opportunities to live generally when disabled, because I suffered chronic fatigue and lots of other issues when I was younger and the only way to really do anything at all was through games, because everything else was too taxing.
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  4. #14
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    Cain Strauss
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    This reminds me when I was a sprout back in ARR and at that time I was doing msq enjoying the world, I choose pld for my first class and since this was my first mmo, I had no idea about the class systems until in some dungeons some people tought me how to move as a tank XD (in my mind I thought that those instances were like any other online game with no class system).
    Then I faced my first wall, the first garuda in ARR, that party asked me in chat if I saw a video or a guide and I was like "no, totally blind (I was doing everything blind -still doing this though on msq xD)" and then one of them explain me in chat what I needed to do, that was something new for me that I need to study for a fight, I tried to do what they explained but probably I didn't understand very well (as my first language is not english). The duty was dissolved and then I was afraid of doing that again.... but I needed to do it in order to advance in the msq...
    Back in that day I was on an ffxiv online community in google+ I explained my experience with Garuda and that people gave some advice that has to do with my lvl or ilvl and where to gear up and they cheer me to try again, so I did what they told me and also I saw a video on youtube about that fight and then I tried again, everything went so well and I felt awesome also in party chat one of them told me "thank you for not being a shitty tank" that comment was also so good read but that person didn't know that in my first run I was a shitty tank xD.

    And nowadays I have done savage and ultimates (just missing TOP) so everyone can improve over time you just need the courage to do it.
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  5. #15
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    Khulan Noir
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Excellent post, and good on you for persisting! Everyone is capable of getting through any level of content in this game if they practice and work on improving. I started playing in late Heavensward and honestly, I sucked. It took me a month to clear Susano EX when it was new and that fight wasn't even that hard. I would later go on to keep practicing, reading up on how to be better, watch videos, etc. would clear every savage tier on content from E1S to P12S, clear 3 ultimates and have plans to clear the other 2. I still struggle sometimes and I'm still really bad at very specific types of mechanics, but I think I'm pretty okay at the game now.
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  6. #16
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    Reiya Rahamos
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Just did some Bozja content, and having dwindling players in the content plus not getting the drops from instance raids, is super depressing cause you really have to work to get them to only then not get the reward.
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    Last edited by Selvokaz; 07-20-2024 at 12:56 PM.

  7. #17
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    I'm giving up on FFXIV when I can't even pass the first solo duty with Wuk Lamat fight. 6 straight fails in a row 5 on very easy which isn't very easy.
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  8. #18
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    Kokola Kola
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    Malboro
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm giving up on FFXIV when I can't even pass the first solo duty with Wuk Lamat fight. 6 straight fails in a row 5 on very easy which isn't very easy.
    Congratulations! You're the target audience!
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  9. #19
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    OP getting a like from me and i wish them good luck and to keep going! I know how it can be with being hard on oneself... i have dealt with that entire life due to a mental illness that is close to social anxiety, so much overthinking and worries of how others perceived me. It didn't help i came from world of warcraft where people got super toxic over dps and other things that had me avoid multiplayer for years, in FFxiv i played a rather poor healer that half the time just winged it when i had a partner that played tank. But moment she weren't around the anxiety of queue up got worse and worse that i dropped the game around start of endwalker, it were a mix of being alone, fearing randoms and reading guides telling me how i played was wrong..

    But returned to the game around a month ago with the goal of learning tank and challenging the anxiety and nervousness i get, so reading the posts here is like super motivational and can say finding a good group to talk and hangout with helps so much too. Yet still there is that "Am i using this or that ability right." and "Am i moving fast enough, pulling enough, doing mechanics right.." going through the mind despite saying fudge it and just go or double checking guides on the content i queue for. I just want to try get to a point of being able to consider myself a tank mama that take care of the party i'm with xD Silly goal i know, and made harder by preferring dark knight.
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  10. #20
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    Ahelissa Reed
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    I'm giving up on FFXIV when I can't even pass the first solo duty with Wuk Lamat fight. 6 straight fails in a row 5 on very easy which isn't very easy.
    I'm sorry, but this is a case of not even putting in the minimum effort. You have to read what Wuk's skills do, and they give you time to read them all before the battle starts.
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