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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I genuinely don't get the Elezen hate (I know, it's obvious since I play one). Is it the long necks?
    EVERYTHING, the face, the ear, the long neck, the stiff walking animation. I think female has it worse than male though.

    Also, I think you haven't played Divinity: Original Sin 2, then.
    I did, but at the very least you can attribute the look to the design. Sin 2 Elf is literally "tree" people, and most people certainly won't find a walking tree to be attractive. But at the same time, we don't say dwarf is unattractive because they're short either because it's kinda a moot point.

    On the other hand, it's clear Elezen was supposed to be designed after the conventional high fantasy elven archetype ... and they just fail.

    Also in Sins while they may not look attractive, the animation are fine. Elezen looks fine when they're standing still, you know ... put them in a gown to hide the unnaturally body proportion, give them a choker to hide the long neck, and they looks quite alright standing still. That's why I don't actually have problem with Isghard or thinking the city looks bad despite having a lot of Elezen. But once they start moving though ... eh.
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  2. #122
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    Why are people so fixated on defending the existing design when I've said multiple times that I don't want it replaced? For better or worse, it's here to stay. Be it as a new race or a half-roegadyn or whatever, I just want for them what female Hrothgar are to Miqo'te: a more physically imposing design with less cutesy animations while still keeping the same basic concept (human with reptilian/draconic features and a tail)
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    Glamour without restrictions* is long overdue!
    If you think so too, help keep the thread going!


    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/455359-We-really-should-be-able-to-glamour-other-jobs-sets

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    Because it would completely ruin their established canon? Because there are already enough tall races? Because sexual dimorphism is hot?
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  4. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raven2014 View Post
    Worse, I think it fit neither.
    not sure what could possibly be worse than gr--mer tbh but please elaborate

    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    I wish dimorphism just wasn't a thing in this game. I don't care if that's how it works in real life, at the end of the day this is a fantasy video game. I don't like that female Au Ra are so much smaller than the guys (and I really don't think their diminutive size makes much sense for the Xaela in particular but I digress), and even though the difference is slight, I'm not a fan of male Viera being smaller than the ladies. Idk, maybe it'd be too boring for there to be no dimorphism, but at least give players the option to go against the mold.
    5'4 male aura lets goooooo
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    Quote Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming View Post
    your titanmen, hes titanmen IM TITANMEN are there anymore titanmens i should know about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    I genuinely don't get the Elezen hate (I know, it's obvious since I play one). Is it the long necks?

    Also, I think you haven't played Divinity: Original Sin 2, then.
    It isnt the long necks. It is the tiny heads that make the slim necks look really long. I think facial wise the elezen right now are very beautiful. and then I zoom out and see the entire body.....the head is too tiny. The head is smaller than the females boobs...The heads are smaller than the hands of the character....It is literally that, just people have transformed it to "long necks". Nah. Small heads. Still jealous of their facetattoos.
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  6. #126
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    I think part of the problem is the devs maybe chickened out and made female Elezen way shorter than their proportions* would suggest, there was no reason for male Midlanders to come anywhere near them in height even at max...

    *conversely, the reason you wouldn't be able to make current female Au Ra that much taller. The size of their head significantly limits how much their height can increase before it just looks wrong...
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    It would be neat to see more options in the character creator, like how with hyur you have large differences between midlanders and highlanders
    Could be something like that, so people who like the things as they are can still have what they want
    Honestly when I had seen the Au Ra in thavnair, I thought it would be cool to have their scale color as a different variation since they seemed to be differently colored than the Raen's

    Another thing would be for Miqo'te and they could have monkey tails like Zidane, though they would have to be an entirely different race at that point
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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    I want to congratulate you on your literacy and ability to stalk people who's opinions you disagree with.
    Lmao what? You didn't have an opinion to disagree with, you were just popping off on me out of nowhere, and taking two seconds out of my day to use the character search feature literally on the game's official website to prove you're a hypocrite isn't "stalking" you. Get over yourself, dude.

    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    Your ability to perceive sarcasm and tongue-in-cheek needs some work tho.
    Keep backpedaling.

    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    What's wrong if that's someone's preference?
    Nothing, as I've said multiple times at this point.
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    Last edited by CidHeiral; 08-28-2024 at 04:53 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciaMirain View Post
    It isnt the long necks. It is the tiny heads that make the slim necks look really long. I think facial wise the elezen right now are very beautiful. and then I zoom out and see the entire body.....the head is too tiny. The head is smaller than the females boobs...The heads are smaller than the hands of the character....It is literally that, just people have transformed it to "long necks". Nah. Small heads. Still jealous of their facetattoos.
    This. On paper Elezen being long of neck and limb doesn't sound too bad, but the art style of this game has an interesting way of handling proportions. This isn't to dunk on the artists or anything, but alot of characters will have really thick necks that contrast with more delicate faces (G'raha and Oschon come to mind). Elezen face that similar issue of having delicate/tiny heads on bodies that are just a bit too big to look right. On top of that they just appear really stiff.
    I'd almost prefer it if they just used the Guado from FFX, though I imagine modeling arm gear on them would be a nightmare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    I will also take two seconds out of my day to point out that you made that post at 1:38, came back to see if you had a reply 2 hours and 15 minutes later, then edited it. It's not healthy to obsess over stuff
    Gosh you caught me fixing a typo. Sick burn bro.

    Quote Originally Posted by All_Nonsense View Post
    Anyway, moving away from that, I'll re-iterate what I said so you have an opinion to disagree with: There's only Miqo'te and Au Ra for short options while tall races have 4. And folks who prefer a dwarf race only have 1 option. If they weren't going to have a max height limit for au ra then why not just make it so every race can either be 5' tall or 8' tall? The races lose their unique characteristics at that point and it gets kinda samey. It actually gets a lot samey go check out PSO2 if it's still alive. In addition to that it would also ruin established canon. Better to ask for a new race that checks the boxes you prefer instead. The resources it would take to make the proposed changes are better spent doing something else instead like giving Viera and Hroth more than like 2 hair options after 5 years of not having any, or hats, or fixing the weird armor stuff going on with Hrothgals. In short, you're just shaking your fist at a cloud, and arguing with pixels on the internet. Kawaii desus, meows, UwUs, and all
    I said I wasn't a fan of Au Ra emotes and you're writing an essay at me about why their height shouldn't change.



    I genuinely don't even know how to respond to this one so I'll leave it at that lol.
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