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    Lady_Silvermoon's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayche View Post
    Surely hating on undead is one of the most common stances in fiction. Zombies, ghosts and vampires that prey on the living for sustenance are the most basic narrative vehicles there is, it is very very normal to oppose them. Only twist Dawntrail takes is that they make the undead appear nice and harmless on the surface and the system does the harm.
    Up until the attack on Tuliyollal, the Endless ran off the life force of those who died of natural causes who had opted into their system by wearing a regulator. Their leaders killed 51 people. In return we wiped out their entire Endless population. If they are vampires, they are vampires in a universe where Tru Blood exists and we didn't stake them because they were actively attempting to drink our blood, we staked them because vampires are gross. We even knew wiping them out wouldn't stop Sphene from attempting to drain the Source because she still had the Meso Terminal. We seriously did it because they are "twisted and unnatural."

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortex View Post
    Don’t forget they already had a machine form prototype in the form of robo otis but they did consider a version that has all the memories and can live with minimal help for over 200 years and could be upgraded a bad prototype version. Plus the inconsistency of needing to kill robo Otis off so there wouldn’t be a problem when facing endless Otis (also he dies while saving not even the queen but a drone, so completely pointless death)
    I mentioned that here in my dissertation on why Alexandrians are the dumbest advanced society ever created that they had already come up with a sustainable way of achieving their goals and abandoned it for a stupid way that would eventually destroy the universe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cenobia View Post
    FFXIV: "Yes, these people are lingering memories given form by Dynamis, but they're sentient, therefore should be considered real people worth helping.
    Also FFXIV, somehow: "Yeah just delete all of these perfectly recorded memories that can experience existence again by being given bodies through aether lmao, they're not real anyway, none of them will even complain."

    It's just bad writing, period. Hiroi did not play the game he's "writing"(ruining) for, and it shows.
    And I love being lectured on the importance of accepting death when I'm standing next to the guy who rewrote time because he couldn't accept the WoL's death... And I'd just like to remind everyone after the Exarch (who has lived for CENTURIES) died, we stuck his memories and soul in a crystal and jammed them into his younger self (hopefully with his younger self having consented to it and we didn't just shove them in there while he was sleep). But when it's not Grandpa SimpCat we're "violating the natural cycle."
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    Aychelle Tripler
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    Up until the attack on Tuliyollal, the Endless ran off the life force of those who died of natural causes who had opted into their system by wearing a regulator. Their leaders killed 51 people. In return we wiped out their entire Endless population. If they are vampires, they are vampires in a universe where Tru Blood exists and we didn't stake them because they were actively attempting to drink our blood, we staked them because vampires are gross. We even knew wiping them out wouldn't stop Sphene from attempting to drain the Source because she still had the Meso Terminal. We seriously did it because they are "twisted and unnatural."
    I think you have lost the plot. Like you can be unsatisfied with the delivery of the story, but the moral of the story is rock solid. They ARE twisted and unnatural, the dead do not come before the living. The point of vampires is that they are ... vampires. They are undead that live at the expense of the true living, they die without the blood of the innocent. Trying to solve vampires with fake blood, animal blood or blood donations is missing the point of vampires, they are a story device. It is wrong to live at the expense of others. This is like one of the most common plot points there are.
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