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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Silvermoon View Post
    If the Endless don't have internal processes, how do we see a flash of what Otis is thinking of? The game literally shows us one of their thoughts so we KNOW they have internal processes. They may be copies, but Cahcuia never asserted they weren't feeling thinking beings, she just downplayed their humanity by pointing out they aren't the originals. She never said they weren't sentient. After all, if you had a park full of beings that didn't have consciousness, who are they doing all this for? Why would anyone build a program that simulates living beings with no one there to experience the simulation? It'd be like running an empty holodeck for centuries, to what end? Why?
    I don't see how seeing Otis thinking about something proves that he has a physical nervous system or brain. He's a fascimile of someone who had those things-- why wouldn't he be able to think? You know what he can't do? He can't tell you the flavor of ice cream you're eating if you ask him to guess because he can't taste it. He can't grow. He can't reproduce. You can turn him on and off and he will be in the same state. Life is not defined by having thoughts. You can call it something, it's not life.

    Endless are lifelike, as I keep saying. Perceivably alive. Their consciousness is functional, it's just not actually real.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 08-24-2024 at 07:45 AM.

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