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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Can't commit genocide against things that already died before.
    Says who? And that's once again ignoring the philosophy that one hasn't truly died is the memory lives on.

    But yes, if there's a whole society of sentient self-aware ghosts and we decide to kill all of them then that would also be considered genocide. But I'm pretty sure the summoned ghosts and zombies aren't sentient so this hasn't happened yet. It is funny though that once again there is a Hildibrand questline that handles this question of sentient zombies with more depth than Dawntrail.

    As to the continued existence of the Endless putting lives at risk I'm honestly not completely convinced that's true. It seems that only the Endless who have been physically manifested consume aether. The ones that are just saved in storage don't. That's why Sphene has been manifesting less and less of them to save resources. But we don't really get to explore those other options of preserving them.

    Yes, we are at war with Sphene, I agree, but even in war the targeting and murder of civilians is seen as a war crime and potential genocide. Yet in Dawntrail the targeting of innocent civilians is the main tactic of fighting the war. And we're just forced to go along with it without complaint and forced to swallow a terrible explanation that these sentient beings with their own thoughts, feelings, and desires don't actually matter and aren't actually "alive".
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    Last edited by Carolingian; 08-21-2024 at 02:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolingian View Post
    But yes, if there's a whole society of sentient self-aware ghosts and we decide to kill all of them then that would also be considered genocide. But I'm pretty sure the summoned ghosts and zombies aren't sentient so this hasn't happened yet. It is funny though that once again there is a Hildibrand questline that handles this question of sentient zombies with more depth than Dawntrail.

    As to the continued existence of the Endless putting lives at risk I'm honestly not completely convinced that's true. It seems that only the Endless who have been physically manifested consume aether. The ones that are just saved in storage don't. That's why Sphene has been manifesting less and less of them to save resources. But we don't really get to explore those other options of preserving them.
    You're thinking too deep, it's a simulation based on memories.
    They simulate the thoughts, the feeling, the desires.

    They didn't materialized everyone because they didn't had the resources. If they had enough they would've done it.

    The technology ate too much aether, wasn't sustainable and will never be sustainable even if they had a Dyson Sphere, because the demands grows infinitely.
    We could either provide them an infinite source of energy to fuel a simulation or shut it down.

    If Sphene actually wanted to cap the aether consumption she would've done it way before she started murdering people for their soul juice and livers.
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    Last edited by CKNovel; 08-21-2024 at 05:26 PM.

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