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    Quote Originally Posted by AlysCamoa View Post
    The amount of people claiming the Endless are at all equivalent to LLMs, that the Scions tried to meaningfully persuade Sphene away from her cause, or that we shut down the terminals for any purpose other than to destroy the Endless while ignoring Sphene really speaks to the amount of cutscene skipping this expansion encourages.

    At the end of the day, we did do something horrible. We played out Emet's example of moral relativism to a T. In the scenario we were given by the story, there really was no other option: we're gaslit into going along with Cahciua's plan (and Wuk's general stupidity) instead of doing anything even slightly more intelligent, so turning off the terminals to save the souls of the star is our only choice. So be it. That doesn't mean the Scions shouldn't feel horrible about doing so. Yet somehow Erenville is the only one who offers any meaningful introspection about the gravity of this plan. The rest of the group leaves Living Memory as a dead husk while smiling and laughing on their way back to Tuliyollal while a Disney sing-along plays. That's absurd. It's a complete travesty of how they've characterized this group, even within the trainwreck of Dawntrail itself.

    Hiroi thought he was a good enough writer to handle these themes. He absolutely was not, and should be sent to an even deeper pit in CBU3 than Oda was.
    You're literally lying. We did not turn off the Meso Terminals because we had some kind of agenda to destroy the Endless ("while ignoring Sphene" is a particularly aggressive load of bs).

    That's not to mention, Cahciua cites sacrificing living people as her motive. It would be unethical if she was targeting them because they are Endless.

    And as much as it's badly written (because why did she just come to realization that living from souls causes her guilt???), the characters are very conflicted about turning off the terminals and the player has dialogue options to offer their perspective. When the terminals are turned off, it's portrayed as melancholy and no one is laughing. As far as the ending, thr story is not about LM and LM isn't real so why would they still be crying over it? At most I think an Erenville or Krile scene would be nice, bc they'd still be thinking about it probably. But the writing is not the best as you have noted. It has nothing to do with ethical theories. We are lucky to get moments of characters having introspection alone at all. They just wanted to spend ending scenes showing you bs we have already seen an a cartoonist raid.
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