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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferMournstar View Post
    Hunters in the bubble can no longer use souls, they will die trying to stop the monsters in that Lighting destroyed world.
    ...but that bubble is literally part of our world now. And the time has been synced at this point, too. We can literally get in and out of the bubble (and so can the citizens of S9/HF).

    There is no reason why we cannot trade with them, help them, equip them with other tools or why they can't leave the bubble temporarily and hunt normal game.

    Also, the idea that human hunters are the only means by which they can hunt is flawed imo. They literally have robots and space ships and now that Zoraal Ja is gone they have no further purpose. Why would an advanced civilisation with a huge cyber military force that exceeds anything Tural has to offer (we need a goddamn dragon to take them down) not be able to employ these things as tools to hunt or keep normal monsters at bay within the bubble?
    Hop on one of those flying bikes and hunt beasts from above. Hell, put a robot on those flying bikes and let them do the hunting for you.

    They can exist just fine without extra souls just like everybody else on Eitherys. They do not need extra souls to live and breathe, it's an insurance against very specific causes of death (not even natural causes) that no other culture has and yet every other culture on this planet is doing fine.
    And they can easily circumvent these cases of unnatural death with other technical solutions. They can just not face tank a beast's tank buster anymore as a pugilist and get away unscathed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    ...but that bubble is literally part of our world now. And the time has been synced at this point, too. We can literally get in and out of the bubble (and so can the citizens of S9/HF).

    There is no reason why we cannot trade with them, help them, equip them with other tools or why they can't leave the bubble temporarily and hunt normal game.

    Also, the idea that human hunters are the only means by which they can hunt is flawed imo. They literally have robots and space ships and now that Zoraal Ja is gone they have no further purpose. Why would an advanced civilisation with a huge cyber military force that exceeds anything Tural has to offer (we need a goddamn dragon to take them down) not be able to employ these things as tools to hunt or keep normal monsters at bay within the bubble?
    Hop on one of those flying bikes and hunt beasts from above. Hell, put a robot on those flying bikes and let them do the hunting for you.

    They can exist just fine without extra souls just like everybody else on Eitherys. They do not need extra souls to live and breathe, it's an insurance against very specific causes of death (not even natural causes) that no other culture has and yet every other culture on this planet is doing fine.
    And they can easily circumvent these cases of unnatural death with other technical solutions. They can just not face tank a beast's tank buster anymore as a pugilist and get away unscathed.
    "They have no further purpose". Did you think Zoraal Ja was just having them standing around, doing nothing for 30 years till he could merge with the Source? Obviously not. They were were used, and they weren't enough, hence the Hunters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LuciferMournstar View Post
    "They have no further purpose". Did you think Zoraal Ja was just having them standing around, doing nothing for 30 years till he could merge with the Source? Obviously not. They were were used, and they weren't enough, hence the Hunters.
    You misunderstood me.

    His military has no further purpose now that he is gone. We have obviously seen some robots patroling Heritage Found but Alexandria has a full cyber space force. Literal ships flying in the sky that are strong enough to conquer Tural. If you have that much power, again power to conquer not just a continent but the entire world (which was his goal), you just cannot tell me that for some reason, now that he is gone, that power cannot be redirected to fight normal monsters in your local area.

    His military cannot simultaneously have enough robots/figters/force to conquer the world but not enough to deal with monsters.

    Also, as I said above, there are more options for Alexandrians now. They are part of Tural at this point. We can forge alliances, establish trade etc. Guraal Ja 2.0 is their ruler and has direct ties to Wuk, who is hellbent on peace and harmony. There is just no implication that the Alexandrians are done for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    You misunderstood me.

    His military has no further purpose now that he is gone. We have obviously seen some robots patroling Heritage Found but Alexandria has a full cyber space force. Literal ships flying in the sky that are strong enough to conquer Tural. If you have that much power, again power to conquer not just a continent but the entire world (which was his goal), you just cannot tell me that for some reason, now that he is gone, that power cannot be redirected to fight normal monsters in your local area.

    His military cannot simultaneously have enough robots/figters/force to conquer the world but not enough to deal with monsters.
    You're forgetting, Zoraal Ja was OVERLY arrogant, and thought very little of Tural and the Source overall. He might have THOUGHT his military was that powerful, but it really wasn't. He more than likely thought his military, being strong enough to keep things kind of safe in the Lightning Hellscape meant is was superior. His pride and his ego lead him to think otherwise.
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