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It's not even that. It's that the morals of DT contradict the morals of ShB. If the Sundered had the right to live even though they aren't life as recognized by Emet-Selch, then why don't the Endless even if they aren't life as recognized by Cahcuia? We're acting like Ascians, down to playing with our food before the kill. There is no functional change in what happens in DT if we just sit in lawn chairs and wait for Sphene to finish reformatting so we can kill her. Everything shuts down anyway. But instead we're playing with these people right before wiping them from existence. It's sick.
No. It doesn't. Because that is a false symmetry and twisted logic. We are not acting like Emet-Selch. The Sundered are living beings, of flesh and bone, they are born, they grow up, and die. They are a completely functional new form of life. The Endless, are not. An Endless cannot be born. An Endless cannot die. An Endless cannot eat. An Endless cannot drink. They have no biological or moral functions beyond what the data of the terminals processed to give them a form and a sense of self-awareness and free will. They are, simply put, a ghosts unable to move on to the afterlife, because they have this 'afterlife' built to them at the cost of the living.

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Usually when people die in the FF14 universe, their force ghosts are sitting in the afterlife, they can watch people on the star doing stuff, make commentary, maybe pop in and do us a favor. They can still interact with and impact the world. Emet-Selch and Hyth helped save the universe after they died. That's not possible with the Endless because we shut them down without a second thought. We dissipated the part of them that hangs out in the afterlife and narrates.

Also, for the people who believe Venat "had no choice" but to sunder the world because otherwise the Ancients would have died out, but also believe death is a natural part of life, how do you reconcile it being acceptable to mutilate an entire race to avoid it's possible end, with it's wrong to not accept the end?
There we go, 'VENAT BAD'. This idolatry towards the Ancients proved my point. Again, the people in Living Memory are akin to an afterlife in the Aetherial Sea. Not only they are disconnected from it, but they are also disconnected from the outside world and NO ONE from the living world can remember them. It is a forgotten mausoleum that devours life to sustain false life, there is no actual logic to sustain the argument that 'we did a bad thing'. We didn't. We helped spirits to find their rest. If you want to genuinely make this argument now, why are not making the same argument of how sick it was that by defeating Emet and Elidibus, we stopped all possibilities of rejoining, thus condemning thousands of souls inside Zodiark to never be reborn and to be erased? Oh yeah, and we also kill Zodiark afterward. Man, what a tragedy right? Clearly a genocide.