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    Nhaama Kagon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malia_Chan View Post
    STOP COMPLAINING!
    Oh man, I simply love people who want to tell others what they are allowed to complain about and what not.
    Especially on a game forum, which is a place specifically to have discussions, criticize, give out suggestions to better the experience and voice complaints.

    If you don't like it, there is a simple solution: don't come here and instead join one of the many overly positive echo chambers that are out there. I think you will feel more at home there.
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    Me too, Erenville, me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malia_Chan View Post
    It's a video game. Made by people who love making video games.

    Nothing is perfect and nothing is catered specifically for YOU.

    Stop being so selfish and narcissistic. Try to enjoy life and the games we play

    FF14 is one of the best MMORPGs out there. They devs do a great job dealing with quality and making sure the game is polished.

    Show some bloody appreciation for their hard work.

    STOP COMPLAINING!
    aight , ill bite


    this is a PAID SERVICE........ Bet you're one the first in line to complain when your Streaming services are down or change ....or when The junk Food you shove Up everyday is no longer available, again complain...so yea...
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    why is WoW living rent free inside your heads?

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    Barwara Sasna
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    I do believe this is one of those times when it’s important to be vocal about how the game fails the players. After 10 years the game needs to keep its old player base interested and its newer player base motivated to stick to the game.

    I think DT should act as a good wake up call for the devs, who are not taking enough risks and are re-using the same formulas and concepts, and take the game’s success as granted.

    If they actually listen to a lot of the well constructed criticism (which can be found elsewhere than on the forums), I think they have good chances to fix their strategy for the next expansion and come closer to reproducing SHB, EW, HW, at least when it comes to the MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barwara View Post
    I do believe this is one of those times when it’s important to be vocal about how the game fails the players. After 10 years the game needs to keep its old player base interested and its newer player base motivated to stick to the game.

    I think DT should act as a good wake up call for the devs, who are not taking enough risks and are re-using the same formulas and concepts, and take the game’s success as granted.

    If they actually listen to a lot of the well constructed criticism (which can be found elsewhere than on the forums), I think they have good chances to fix their strategy for the next expansion and come closer to reproducing SHB, EW, HW, at least when it comes to the MSQ.
    Even the forum has well constructed feedback like that one thread about the writing.
    It just tends to be buried by the same arguments going around because of insults and baiting.
    Even this thread here is obvious bait intended to make fun of criticism and I‘m as guilty as the others for responding here.

    Otherwise I agree with you especially with the wake up call.
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    There is a difference between complaining and giving feedback. Just saying ...
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    Constructive feedback is not complaining. People, including me, payed good money for this. We are entitled to expect a good product, for the money we spend. If people are not satisfied, they have every right to air their grievances. So maybe follow your own advice and stop complaining....just a thought.
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    Don't look back, that's not the way you're going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antharaes View Post
    Constructive feedback is not complaining. People, including me, payed good money for this. We are entitled to expect a good product, for the money we spend. If people are not satisfied, they have every right to air their grievances. So maybe follow your own advice and stop complaining....just a thought.
    You had me at constructive feedback and lost me at entitled.

    It's realistically impossible to cater to every single individual out there, at the end of the day it's still their vision and their game. It's fine not to agree with their vision and you are also free to pick a better product that fits your needs. Fair?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    You had me at constructive feedback and lost me at entitled.

    It's realistically impossible to cater to every single individual out there, at the end of the day it's still their vision and their game. It's fine not to agree with their vision and you are also free to pick a better product that fits your needs. Fair?
    The thing is if ALOT, and I say ALOT of your PAYING PLAYERS, and not just EN players at that EVEN JP PLAYERS, are not happy with the product then I'd that yes, Something went wrong with the product. This is not just some stray comment disparaging the product, alot of it are constructive criticism too.

    People that say "Oh if you dont like it then unsub" just in a different wording, literally don't contribute to the discussion at all because this is an MMO, and its PAYING PLAYERS ARE IT'S LIFE BLOOD. If ALOT of the paying players are not happy, then they will lose customer. I get what you're saying if its just some few dissatisfied player saying this but there are alot of people unhappy about the expac.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mnemy View Post
    The thing is if ALOT, and I say ALOT of your PAYING PLAYERS, and not just EN players at that EVEN JP PLAYERS, are not happy with the product then I'd that yes, Something went wrong with the product. This is not just some stray comment disparaging the product, alot of it are constructive criticism too.

    People that say "Oh if you dont like it then unsub" just in a different wording, literally don't contribute to the discussion at all because this is an MMO, and its PAYING PLAYERS ARE IT'S LIFE BLOOD. If ALOT of the paying players are not happy, then they will lose customer. I get what you're saying if its just some few dissatisfied player saying this but there are alot of people unhappy about the expac.
    That's absolutely fine. If enough players stop playing and there is no real growth anymore then, they will be compelled to make a meaningful change.

    While everyone's voice matters and everyone is free to voice concerns and dissatisfaction, as long as those aren't measured in meaningful numbers, businesses will NEVER cater to a small majority. Not when other options are present on the market that could absorb those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    That's absolutely fine. If enough players stop playing and there is no real growth anymore then, they will be compelled to make a meaningful change.

    While everyone's voice matters and everyone is free to voice concerns and dissatisfaction, as long as those aren't measured in meaningful numbers, businesses will NEVER cater to a small majority. Not when other options are present on the market that could absorb those.
    This is the official forums tho, It exist soley for discussions and criticism. And even if its kinda slow the criticism does reach them. That's the reason why there are changes here and there, even the grape thing from EW reached them. And FFXIVs one of SE most profitable ventures because its steady income. So people complain.

    People are still holding hope that the patches story will save this mess, but what if it didnt? Maybe its Shadowlands Exodus FFXIV version. Maybe it's not. Who knows? But if people stopped complaining, then its a sure fire way to kill the game. So I'd rather complain than shut the fuck up. I paid 40 dollars for this.
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