Quote Originally Posted by Krausus View Post
well of course they will take part but I damn well better get priority. I didnt stick through from the start through all the crap just to be crapped on some more. I think it is pretty sad all the "those who stuck around cant provide feedback adequately" talk. If it wasnt for us the game probably would have just cancelled and it wouldn't be in a playable state. The so called "inadequate" feedback is what has kept this game going and moving into 2.0.
it's not we can't provide 'adequate' feed back. it's that feedback is more biased.

in the first beta, there were essentially three types of posters on the feedback forums.

1) people that loved and raved about the game and said there was nothing wrong with it. (IE: delusional, see the world through rose colored glasses)

2) people who saw the problems. talked about them. and said 'the game is not yet ready. delay release by at least 3 months to fix it'

3) people who recognized the problems and said 'it will be fine at launch, they can patch later. go ahead and release.'

persons 1 and 3 are the type that 'stuck to it' and quite frankly the feedback they provided was not what the game needed.

you need the people that won't stick to a crap game to provide true constructive feedback.

it wasn't the 'inadequate feedback' that kept the game going. is was the fact they kept playing even though the game was total garbage.

The real feedback that was used to fix the game was gathered early on. BEFORE the people that quit quit.

1) the UI was crap
2) the engine was inefficient and crappy
3) not enough content

those are the three things that kept the game from being successful. they are still the three things keeping the game from being successful. the rest of the feedback is just stuff we want to have. not the stuff that is really needed.

when I see people say "I Deserve Beta access! i've played since the original 1.0 beta!" what i understand is "I'm a fanboy! give me stuff because I love you unconditionally!"

and I can't agree with that. the people that are most valuable in a beta are people that understand tech, can help troubleshoot bugs, and provide constructive feed back. Not people who have played since the original beta. you can make that one of many priorities. but to make that the number one priority is ridiculous.

Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
Well, thats how I "feel" but I don't need to be in Beta, the people that been here since day 1 never gave up on the game stuck with it through its hardest of times. ( This is what I Originally thought).

(After seeing the Comments) I realized that in order for the games Success other people that haven't played in FFXIV yet and people that quit show take part in it too, so when they see how Potentially A Realm Reborn is, they can Word of Mouth all of that to there friends and online companions to increase the population of FFXIV: A Realm Reborn. ( This is the Most Realistic Answer to me).

I know we will all be in 2.0 Beta at some point and Enjoying 2.0 Launch so that enough should be enough for me.

Edit: However if I happen to get into the Beta I won't complain I'll be enjoying it. If not, I'll just see the Reviews of the Beta! .
Now i can agree with you. I imagine there will be a beta sign-up much like there was for 1.0. Based on the specs of my machines, technical knowledge, Japanese language minor, my beta test history, and legacy status I will likely get in. but nothing is guaranteed. And i certainly don't feel entitled to a slot.

If i get one. YAY! and i'll provide feedback as I can. I will hope my voice is heard. but i understand that what i want isn't what everyone wants. I will restrict the bulk of my feedback to what i think the game really needs (UI, engine, usability) and will throw in content when I can. (Mounted combat! a 'founders' pack or a relaunch CE with awesome goodies!)