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  1. #11
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    I hope they say something, anything. It would be reassuring to know at least they're HEARING the feedback and doing something about it, like they did with the combat changes.
    If they just pretend it's not there and then we get patch after patch of the same level of writing, I'm sure I won't be the only one slowing losing faith and interest in the game.
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuine_stranger View Post
    Yeah, the design stayed the same.
    But let's be honest. Exploring a dungeon is only fun the first time around, after that you'll speedrun them anyway.

    Earlier today I've gone through Sastasha (Lvl 15) again and while the environmental storytelling is good, going through every room in every run again? No, thank you.
    This is true, I guess it's inevitable for rerun content to become trivial like that but still I believe game design can overcome this and make replaying content fun. Look at games like Diablo or PoE; grinding can be a blast. Not hat I want FFXIV to be an ARPG number quest; I just think improvements can be made to make it fun beyond the first time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizLemons View Post
    I'm sure I won't be the only one slowing losing faith and interest in the game.
    If you're losing interest, log off.

    I stayed in this game for way too long because my friends were here. Wasted time.

    There are better hobbies out there, there are better games out there, there are better MMORPGs out there. Hopefully you can bring your friends with you, but if not, that's life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    It doesn’t matter if the devs respond or not. It maybe best selling because it follows endwalker. People expected quality. The subs will drop drastically. I don’t plan to stay subbed. I couldn’t stomach Dawn Trails story and it took me 3 weeks to get to 100 due to taking breaks from the dull story. The content in the story wasn’t engaging enough, talk cutscene, touch, cutscene, look, cutscene. I have no desire for fates or crafting. Not looking forward to relic weapons because 6.0 weapons weren’t challenging. The new space planet zones will just be gathering and crafting which is disappointing.

    I unsubbed after the end of 6.0, the story was the only thing keeping me playing. I’m enjoying Guild Wars 2 anyways since it provides story and open world fun. The combat is fast pace too.
    Bye can I have your gil
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    If you're losing interest, log off.

    I stayed in this game for way too long because my friends were here. Wasted time.

    There are better hobbies out there, there are better games out there, there are better MMORPGs out there. Hopefully you can bring your friends with you, but if not, that's life.
    That...has nothing to do with what I just said.
    In other words, I said "if they don't address it, I think people will lose interest". I'm just saying I would like the devs to say something, and that I feel it's important.
    That's it. Nothing about logging off or looking for other games or my feelings for the hobby, on leaving the game. Don't assume things.
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  6. #16
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    At the very best, they will talk about it when they will present the next expansion, saying something like "we heard the complain of some of the players".

    But no developpers would talk badly of their own live service game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    They won't lol.

    What will they gain from a press release saying "Hey this game we're selling is butt!"

    The writer is probably not loving his work life right now, and will probably be replaced for the next expansion. Or at least be put under stricter supervision.

    But also, the expansion isn't horrible, the MSQ is horrible. The rest is entirely hitting FFXIV par, which is not very high, but seems to be popular. Some of the fights are above par.
    I'm going to agree with this as well. The Devs have no reason to make an article about how DT's had (comparatively) poor reception. They would be better served simply trying to course correct for the future, not unlike what they did--ironically--with ARR.

    I'm still mystified as to what happened, though. The writer did the Bard and Black Mage role quests and those are both really friggin solid. I want to hold onto some optimism that the guy can fix things up in post--not even as a "Dawntrail Defender", but as a Black Mage main who holds this guy to better than that.

    The rest *is* good, and hell, there were parts of the MSQ that I thought were alright, too. Someone else mentioned that the characters in MSQ felt kind of wooden and I agree with that. and Wuk Lamat (which the character concept is fine) is like a black hole with how much she makes other people and reality bend around her. Dialing that down would go a long way.
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  8. #18
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    Dami Nicha
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    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    It doesn’t matter if the devs respond or not. It maybe best selling because it follows endwalker. People expected quality. The subs will drop drastically. I don’t plan to stay subbed. I couldn’t stomach Dawn Trails story and it took me 3 weeks to get to 100 due to taking breaks from the dull story. The content in the story wasn’t engaging enough, talk cutscene, touch, cutscene, look, cutscene. I have no desire for fates or crafting. Not looking forward to relic weapons because 6.0 weapons weren’t challenging. The new space planet zones will just be gathering and crafting which is disappointing.

    I unsubbed after the end of 6.0, the story was the only thing keeping me playing. I’m enjoying Guild Wars 2 anyways since it provides story and open world fun. The combat is fast pace too.
    Oooh, Have fun with the new GW2 expansion! Congratulations on the easier housing!
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    Coeurl - Astrologian - Wannabe Fisher

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    Probably too soon to expect this anyway really.

    I mean, the MSQ may have received a mixed reception (mostly negative on the forums/social media) but the new Raids seem very popular.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    I'm going to agree with this as well. The Devs have no reason to make an article about how DT's had (comparatively) poor reception. They would be better served simply trying to course correct for the future, not unlike what they did--ironically--with ARR.

    I'm still mystified as to what happened, though. The writer did the Bard and Black Mage role quests and those are both really friggin solid. I want to hold onto some optimism that the guy can fix things up in post--not even as a "Dawntrail Defender", but as a Black Mage main who holds this guy to better than that.

    The rest *is* good, and hell, there were parts of the MSQ that I thought were alright, too. Someone else mentioned that the characters in MSQ felt kind of wooden and I agree with that. and Wuk Lamat (which the character concept is fine) is like a black hole with how much she makes other people and reality bend around her. Dialing that down would go a long way.
    Garfield will hopefully fade into the background like Lyse(she had 22% of all voiced dialogue and talking to her was the quest objective 147 fucking times), but I'm less optimistic about them fixing the issues with English VA direction. Yoshida said they went with a different recording studio for DT, which likely means a different director, and the VAs said that they weren't even told what scenes they were recording for.
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