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    Player Masekase_Hurricane's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    I think the story is "mid" more than bad...but it's also hot on the heels of Shadowbringers and Endwalker which were incredibly well received.
    True but that's the end of the story that started at ARR. It's like watching a film and comparing the middle where all the action is to the start there's no comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masekase_Hurricane View Post
    True but that's the end of the story that started at ARR. It's like watching a film and comparing the middle where all the action is to the start there's no comparison.
    But there's no real hook like there was in ARR. No ongoing political tension, the worldbuilding is as deep as a puddle, and no greater looming threats. There's just the hourglass, which brings us right back to Amaurot again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    But there's no real hook like there was in ARR. No ongoing political tension, the worldbuilding is as deep as a puddle, and no greater looming threats. There's just the hourglass, which brings us right back to Amaurot again.
    See, the thing is - this is purely your personal opinion. My own opinion is the complete opposite - I thought DT did an excellent job with world-building. When we reach the point of acknowledging that our takes are subjective opinions and not objective facts, we have a reason for our thoughts to be given merit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    I think the story is "mid" more than bad...but it's also hot on the heels of Shadowbringers and Endwalker which were incredibly well received.
    Agreed.
    I mean sure, the story has it's issues (what story doesn't) but I feel some people hate it to an unreasonable degree.

    If there's one criticism in terms of "how does it go in the future" I say that it is too encapsulated. Almost like a one-and-done episode of a TV series.
    Apart from the Key, all issues in Tural seem to be solved (for now).
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    There is going to be a Live Letter in August, maybe they will make a comment or they might just ignore it. Atleast JP players agree, that DT story is meh when you compare it to the previous 2 expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Atleast JP players agree, that DT story is meh when you compare it to the previous 2 expansion.
    Of course it is.
    SHB and EW were the pay-off of 10 years of world building. No new origin story can compare with that.
    It's basically WoW post Wrath, where you stopped caring about so much because the story you began in Warcraft III was concluded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Granyala View Post
    Of course it is.
    SHB and EW were the pay-off of 10 years of world building. No new origin story can compare with that.
    It's basically WoW post Wrath, where you stopped caring about so much because the story you began in Warcraft III was concluded.
    That's not necessarily the case. I enjoyed Endwalker and shadowbringers because of the story, sure, but also the character interactions. Most of Dawntrail is *Wuk Lamat says something about culture, friendship, and is overall very naive. Everyone else nods along and agrees.* Most people appear upset because the story was disappointing; and it didnt have to be that way. For example; I went into the story very curious about Krile arc and felt like she was almost completely neglected to fit in more Talk to Wuk Lamat quests. In fact ALL the scions were mostly neglected this expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xellith View Post
    I went into the story very curious about Krile arc and felt like she was almost completely neglected
    Dunno, I like Wuk. Yeah she's naive. That was the point. And she needed to learn the ugly way that not every conflict can be solved by holding hands and singing Kumba-ya. She's grown a lot and I'm curious to see where her journey takes her.

    Scions being on the back burner I can kinda understand, we just had 2 expansions that were basically Scion centric.
    Krile: totally agreed. It's a shame that her "story" amounts to like 5 minutes of screen time.
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    Wuk Lamat in 7.1
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    I don't think it would have been much better if they focused on Erenville and Krile since they're both very boring characters that can't be made the focus of a story for too long before you start to notice. Obviously that's also the fault of the writers, but it is what it is. If Krile had something going for them aside from "Muh grandfather" (Honestly every damn thing with her seems to be about him aside from one sassy comment way back in Heavensward) then sure, maybe. Then we've got Erenville with his "I'm too cool for everyone" attitude when he's a glorified torch bearer.

    That said, reducing the amount of dialog and story relevance that Wuk Lamat got would have been an improvement even if they're kinda boring themselves.
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    Last edited by hydralus; 07-19-2024 at 05:02 AM.

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