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    pclarkson85's Avatar
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    Have the devs responded to Dawntrail reception?

    suffice it to say this is the weakest and lowest point for FF14 (besides 1.0); Even with JP players not enjoying the expansion.

    have the devs put out a statement or do you think they will at somepoint?
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    Not yet but I hope they will.
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    They won't lol.

    What will they gain from a press release saying "Hey this game we're selling is butt!"

    The writer is probably not loving his work life right now, and will probably be replaced for the next expansion. Or at least be put under stricter supervision.

    But also, the expansion isn't horrible, the MSQ is horrible. The rest is entirely hitting FFXIV par, which is not very high, but seems to be popular. Some of the fights are above par.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    They won't lol.

    What will they gain from a press release saying "Hey this game we're selling is butt!"

    The writer is probably not loving his work life right now, and will probably be replaced for the next expansion. Or at least be put under stricter supervision.

    But also, the expansion isn't horrible, the MSQ is horrible. The rest is entirely hitting FFXIV par, which is not very high, but seems to be popular. Some of the fights are above par.
    I also agree with this. The only part that's awful about this expansion is the MSQ. But dungeons/trials/raids have been a major improvement. And obviously the graphics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vydos View Post
    I also agree with this. The only part that's awful about this expansion is the MSQ. But dungeons/trials/raids have been a major improvement. And obviously the graphics.
    I've only seen the first 2 dungeons in the MSQ because I can only play for like an hour at a time before I am bored out of my mind; that said from what I did see I don't see any improvement to dungeons, its the same linear zerg to the boss
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    Quote Originally Posted by pclarkson85 View Post
    that said from what I did see I don't see any improvement to dungeons, its the same linear zerg to the boss
    They've added what could basically be considered minibosses to some bits of trash. You have Qitana Ravel first boss but with added trash and lead-up hall mechanics, big stompy turtle that everyone has to keep running away from unless the healer puts it to sleep, and Calcabrina throwing an eternal Slapstick tantrum that forces a lot of healing or a Panhaima to look forward to.
    It's not much, but it's something at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    They won't lol.

    What will they gain from a press release saying "Hey this game we're selling is butt!"

    The writer is probably not loving his work life right now, and will probably be replaced for the next expansion. Or at least be put under stricter supervision.

    But also, the expansion isn't horrible, the MSQ is horrible. The rest is entirely hitting FFXIV par, which is not very high, but seems to be popular. Some of the fights are above par.
    MSQ: 0. I had to stop playing several times because the MSQ was making me angry at its quality.
    Zone Design: 6. There's a nice variety, and the zones are pretty as usual. However, they're a little bit too large and empty for some reason. Mostly because of the next thing in the list.
    Side Quests: 6. There are far too few of them this time around, and they give crap EXP, but they're actually mostly enjoyable. Every last one of them has much better writing than the MSQ.
    Role Quests: 7. Good, cheesy stories, nowhere near the Blasphemies from EW, and that's fine. Whoever designed the Healer and Ranged fight, STOP. I don't need 20 popups telling me to Esuna in the healer fight, and whoever thought it was a good idea to make me hit a shield 500 times with nothing else going on needs to find a different position in the company.
    Dungeons: 7. They're dungeons. They hit like a wet fart still, but I do enjoy some of the variations of mechanics, especially in the Expert dungeons.
    Trials: 7. The first two were glorious, and I want more of those. The last one was awesome, right until it got completely ruined by "Speeen. Lissen to meh." 0/10 for that moment alone.
    Raids: 10. I cannot remember the last time I had this much fun in even a Normal Mode raid as a healer. Which makes the next point in the list even more depressing.
    Job Design: 4. Healers are still an absolute dumpster fire. They have also neutered tanks, and Black Mage, to cater to players who don't bother trying in the first place. Balance is all over the place, Dancer is an absolute travesty at 100. There are very few classes left that actually feel rewarding to play well.

    So, yeah. Par for FF. An average score in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koko-on-da-forumz View Post
    They won't lol.

    What will they gain from a press release saying "Hey this game we're selling is butt!"

    The writer is probably not loving his work life right now, and will probably be replaced for the next expansion. Or at least be put under stricter supervision.

    But also, the expansion isn't horrible, the MSQ is horrible. The rest is entirely hitting FFXIV par, which is not very high, but seems to be popular. Some of the fights are above par.
    I'm going to agree with this as well. The Devs have no reason to make an article about how DT's had (comparatively) poor reception. They would be better served simply trying to course correct for the future, not unlike what they did--ironically--with ARR.

    I'm still mystified as to what happened, though. The writer did the Bard and Black Mage role quests and those are both really friggin solid. I want to hold onto some optimism that the guy can fix things up in post--not even as a "Dawntrail Defender", but as a Black Mage main who holds this guy to better than that.

    The rest *is* good, and hell, there were parts of the MSQ that I thought were alright, too. Someone else mentioned that the characters in MSQ felt kind of wooden and I agree with that. and Wuk Lamat (which the character concept is fine) is like a black hole with how much she makes other people and reality bend around her. Dialing that down would go a long way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    I'm going to agree with this as well. The Devs have no reason to make an article about how DT's had (comparatively) poor reception. They would be better served simply trying to course correct for the future, not unlike what they did--ironically--with ARR.

    I'm still mystified as to what happened, though. The writer did the Bard and Black Mage role quests and those are both really friggin solid. I want to hold onto some optimism that the guy can fix things up in post--not even as a "Dawntrail Defender", but as a Black Mage main who holds this guy to better than that.

    The rest *is* good, and hell, there were parts of the MSQ that I thought were alright, too. Someone else mentioned that the characters in MSQ felt kind of wooden and I agree with that. and Wuk Lamat (which the character concept is fine) is like a black hole with how much she makes other people and reality bend around her. Dialing that down would go a long way.
    Garfield will hopefully fade into the background like Lyse(she had 22% of all voiced dialogue and talking to her was the quest objective 147 fucking times), but I'm less optimistic about them fixing the issues with English VA direction. Yoshida said they went with a different recording studio for DT, which likely means a different director, and the VAs said that they weren't even told what scenes they were recording for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Garfield will hopefully fade into the background like Lyse(she had 22% of all voiced dialogue and talking to her was the quest objective 147 fucking times), but I'm less optimistic about them fixing the issues with English VA direction. Yoshida said they went with a different recording studio for DT, which likely means a different director, and the VAs said that they weren't even told what scenes they were recording for.
    That I didn't know. That's a big problem. Hopefully one that will get remedied in time but good lord.
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