Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
There's a key difference between what G'raha did and what Sphene is trying to do: he is fully aware that the people he left behind are doomed and his only choice (at least as he understood it) was to leave them to their fate and do his best to save people that still could be saved.

Here, our choice is between prolonging the existence of these people who are so doomed they're already dead, and either actively asking to be turned off or completely unbothered by the prospect, versus the actual ongoing lives of everyone else in the universe. There's no real choice to be made, just a grim but necessary task before us.
This isn't the first time a calamity happened and almost destroyed the world. In fact, Midgardsormr seems to consider there's hope since he wakes up and try to fix things after he went back in time.
G'raha left a world ravaged by Black Rose for another ravaged by light. There were living being in both world, both were following a near extinction event. Couldn't they try to fix what happened in their world, instead of dooming them all to probable oblivion?

But I understand the key of that sentence is "at least as he understood it". Which is my point, in fact. For Sphene, the Endless have as much right existing as her other subjects, and being saved in the cloud is just another step in their lives.
So we take the decision to shut them down, because her conception of what is alive is different to ours and we consider she's wrong.
Sphene is actually fully aware she's dooming other civilizations to save the Endless who will disappear if she can't find the aether to sustain them, just like G'raha is aware his timeline is probably doomed if he actually manages to save us / prevent the calamity. She doesn't see a choice, and only the grim necessity of killing people to save hers.

As I said in my post, they're only dead with the Source definition of the word, but are actually living forever in the Alexandrian definition.

About the Endless they're okay being shut down, except Cahciua and Krile's parent, I remember a few mentioning it, but I wonder if they realize it's permanent and they'll just fade away.
We're told we're erasing them (Krile's parents were looking for a way to erase themselves), but they seem to just think it's another cycle and they'll be recreated at a future time. But I guess it's still unclear if we just turned them off or if everything in the terminals is gone