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  1. #71
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    Davixxa's Avatar
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    Alice Roseblossom
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    Odin
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
    I'm sorry man, but that's just not true. Even ranged players benefit from standing in max melee range for in-out mechanics. The only time you're ever gonna get cleaved is if you're behind the tank when a tankbuster goes out, and they're always very clearly telegraphed.

    I'm also a healer, by the way. I generally tend to max melee.
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  2. #72
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    Ploitering's Avatar
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    Ex' Ploit
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    Zodiark
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    by the time i see what arm he is raising and i start moving the fast-telegraphing poison aoe in the middle has already appeared and is gonna clip me because it snapshots too quickly... i mean, look at this! how are you expected to handle this if you have cast bars?

    https://youtu.be/3xRhxC5rlPI

    I've been stuck here for days! been trying to do it with trusts because i can't stand being yelled at and vote abandoned anymore


    My brother in christ, you start of the first poison mech by immediately going to the wrong side, then being late moving out. Like others said, hang around near middle after every puddle, hell if u stay under the boss model just moving max melee on the opposite side of the arms guarantee's ur safety
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  3. #73
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    Mooserocka33's Avatar
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    Moose Rocca
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    no, they're literally complaining that healing is currently "too easy" from what i've read, which doesn't make sense to me, healing has never really been all that easy in terms of room for error, but dungeons used to be more chill than the suffering that is healing in harder content... but now it feels like healing dungeons is way more stressful than it used to be...I'm scared to even see the Expert dungeons just going off of Origenics, let alone the overtuned nightmares we're likely going to see in the raid if this is what they're doing with dungeons...
    Um if healer in dungeon is if you dont dps you have to stand there for 3 seconds doing nothing , sometimes over 7 seconds Its not good. I am happy they changed it or well made it closer to what it used to be. People forget how healer had to stance dance back in the day. there was healing stance and damage stance. They changed this to make it easier now people want it so brain dead easy. NO lets go back to where it was . not stance dancing of course but if people want chill being the most important person they should play another job.
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    My discord is Moose#9971

  4. #74
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    Mooserocka33's Avatar
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    Moose Rocca
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    Cactuar
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    Ninja Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Davixxa View Post
    I'm sorry man, but that's just not true. Even ranged players benefit from standing in max melee range for in-out mechanics. The only time you're ever gonna get cleaved is if you're behind the tank when a tankbuster goes out, and they're always very clearly telegraphed.

    I'm also a healer, by the way. I generally tend to max melee.
    Dont forget it also adds minimal more dps from book smacks or rod smacks lol.
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    My discord is Moose#9971

  5. #75
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    4clubbedace's Avatar
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    Viorel Amala
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    Faerie
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    yes but consider this:

    finding the button and clicking on it takes time,
    you should know where your buttons are by level 100
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  6. #76
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    zattowangai's Avatar
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    Ephra Wan'gai
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    Kraken
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    Marauder Lv 100
    So, I gotta ask, why did you take that screenshot while standing in orange circles in the vid? That was time you could have used to move, after doing that mechanic twice correctly.
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  7. #77
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    ArielTimeshrine's Avatar
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    Ariel Timeshrine
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    Brynhildr
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
    Patently untrue. You go in melee so you cover the entire party with your healing. Being conscious of your heal range and how to utilize it is a core healer skill and the fact that you don't have it doesn't mean things are hard. If it's cleaving something, you will probably know, and if you don't know you're probably standing in front of it/on the tank and deserve to get blasted.

    EDIT: Actually, on the topic of cleaves, I hope you realize that if you're getting targetted with a cone cleave it literally is easier to dodge if you're close to melee range.
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    Last edited by ArielTimeshrine; 07-19-2024 at 06:45 AM.

  8. #78
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    Gullis's Avatar
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    Gullis Hil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Depends on gear mostly I feel. it was fun when everyone was low geared, but during recent roulettes, I have noticed I am going more and more back to pure glarebot status in the new content.
    Give it time, and you can go back to sleepomode as healer
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  9. #79
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    Vivahoja's Avatar
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    Soju Baby
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    but i'm a healer, i shouldn't ever stand near a boss like ever, after the mechanic is over i could just get destroyed the next time it decides to do a cleave or some other mechanic!
    Can you tell me how you finished the Seat of Sacrifice Trial? The last boss in Mailkah's Well?The Magus Sister bosses? Omega Normal Raids? Or any other MSQ/Casual content that definitionally requires you to stand inside the bosses hitbox or near them with donut-shaped AOEs or magnetism mechanics?

    Are you saying the developers are putting mechanics in that they are intending for your role to ignore? Because right now you're either objectively wrong OR you're saying the developers are under tuning the content to the point of being completely ignorable, which means you're advocating for content for be harder and ESPECIALLY so for healers, right? Which one is it?
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    Last edited by Vivahoja; 07-19-2024 at 06:59 AM.

  10. #80
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    KilkaKarsh's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Amelie Treese
    World
    Phantom
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Granis View Post
    Except the first boss of Origenics literally punishes you hard if you try to cast a GCD, you aren't getting a cast off during the 4 poison attacks, you need to CONSTANTLY move, you don't have time to use a GCD, but then again, if you don't heal someone is either gonna die to a poison tick or to the spread right afterwards.
    If you have to move constantly, you are moving too much.
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