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    Square Enix Balancing

    This is a shitpost.
    This is a shitpost about SE balancing.
    This is a shitpost about SE balancing around jobs.

    Pre 7.01.
    Mnk feels really bad
    Whm needs potency buffs
    Blm needs potency buffs
    Mch needs potency buffs
    Drk needs some mitigation love and some potency buffs
    Ast and Picto needs slight nerfs.

    SE:
    Yes we need to buff Astro still feels clunky.
    Monks are doing stuff we didn't envision let's nuke it even though they still are far off.
    Nothing about jobs that actually need it.

    SE why you so fucking bad when it comes to balancing at the start of a expansion.
    It's 3 times in a row now you completely fucked it up.
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    Last edited by MrSigy; 07-17-2024 at 06:59 PM.

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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Ninja Lv 100
    I'm impressed they somehow managed to make WHM's personal DPS lower then AST when it's historically had the edge over it in that regard.
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    Saraide Derosa
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    Odin
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    The change to warrior is peak. They designed warrior a certain way, found out that people were a second primal ruination into raid buffs, decided to remove this unintended interaction, but then buffed warrior anyway to make up for it. Effectively warrior is still buffed compared to the original design. Despite being the second highest in damage rankings and by far the highest in sustain. Someone on the job team really likes warrior and really hates dark knight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Magikazam's Avatar
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    Omori Oatmeal
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    Malboro
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    Summoner Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The change to warrior is peak. They designed warrior a certain way, found out that people were a second primal ruination into raid buffs, decided to remove this unintended interaction, but then buffed warrior anyway to make up for it. Effectively warrior is still buffed compared to the original design. Despite being the second highest in damage rankings and by far the highest in sustain. Someone on the job team really likes warrior and really hates dark knight.
    I mean, pretty sure it just like a 30 potency increase, but yea, It just weird that they decided to adjust that one tank that doing great at everything.
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    Rithris Amaya
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    Twintania
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    Paladin Lv 100
    It's honestly no surprise that Warrior is doing so well and gets potency adjustments to make sure it's still above DRK/PLD. Would it be so difficult to slightly buff DRK/PLD (And jobs like black mage) and see how that goes before savage comes out, Gunbreaker always without fail has to be top damage for some reason despite losing some weaving as well, I feel like they purposely make sure that GNB is always ahead.

    It feels likely that we're going to get small buffs in the expansion that will barely do anything until halfway through, I understand about being careful with buffs, but wouldn't it make sense to make some small potency adjustments to jobs... and see how that goes before 2 weeks when savage comes out.

    Oh well I guess I'll hope PLD/DRK get some nice buffs, I really hope it's not going to be me waiting for ages for tanks to be balanced out despite all of them being similar.

    As for "mitigation" I think they just need to make Dark Mind work on physical and please make oblation feel slightly more impactful (I don't know... maybe some life steal effect or something crazy idea...) I do think DRK is generally acceptable Mit wise in raids.
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    Last edited by Rithy255; 07-17-2024 at 08:42 PM.

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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    SE: Rips out all job identity and homogenizes everything to make it easier to balance.

    Also SE: Still can't balance a damned thing.

    If this is their attempt at "balance", I'd rather have the fun we used to have, than the joke of balance we have today.
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    LilyPendragon's Avatar
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    Jasnah Kohlin
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    The change to warrior is peak. They designed warrior a certain way, found out that people were a second primal ruination into raid buffs, decided to remove this unintended interaction, but then buffed warrior anyway to make up for it. Effectively warrior is still buffed compared to the original design. Despite being the second highest in damage rankings and by far the highest in sustain. Someone on the job team really likes warrior and really hates dark knight.
    Must be nice being a warrior and being the developers favourite child since stormblood lol
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    Daralii's Avatar
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    Endris Caemwynn
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    Coeurl
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LilyPendragon View Post
    Must be nice being a warrior and being the developers favourite child since stormblood lol
    Weren't they also the strongest by a long shot in ARR and HW? Especially before cooldowns reset on wipes and block worked against magic damage.
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    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Daralii View Post
    Weren't they also the strongest by a long shot in ARR and HW? Especially before cooldowns reset on wipes and block worked against magic damage.
    Definitely not in ARR. We used to 1/2/5 with a Paladin back then.
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    Cheez Whiz
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    Paladin Lv 100
    DRK's mit is fine. DRK and PLD both need potency buffs though.
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