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    Xelanar's Avatar
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    Xelanar Fhey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infindox View Post
    Wait a bit and soon you will see them extremely cheap.
    This is exactly what is going to happen, but only after they are made available somewhere else - which is exactly my point. They should be made available elsewhere to begin with, because building something with Stone Partitions requires tons of them, and there will never be tons of them if they stay gated the way they are now.

    Again: I have no issues with items being gated like this. I only have issues with the KIND of item they are using for this purpose. If items that are required in bulk cannot be obtained in bulk, they might as well not be implemented at all until they become more accessible. It is a bad practice, and they clearly do not have housing enthusiasts in mind when deciding to place them where they did.
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    Khryseis Astra
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    If it’s any consolation, the neon lights are not my style at all, so I’ll be throwing any I get on the market board immediately. The stone partitions I’ll keep and try to save up enough to do something with. I suspect that will be the case for most people: they’ll keep the one that fits their style and sell the other.

    Are these from the 18 hour level 100 ventures? At least they didn’t throw them in the quick ventures, so the loot pool isn’t as large. I’m with you though, I’d like to see another way to get them. But with any luck the drop rate won’t be absolutely horrible. When they put the Flagstone lofts and steps in the submarine loot, it was frustrating for awhile. Now the market board is flooded with them, as they only cost about 20k instead of their original millions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khryseis_Astra View Post
    Are these from the 18 hour level 100 ventures?
    People have claimed Neon Wall Lighs are from the 18 hour level 100 retainer ventures, and can also drop from level 90 treasure maps (not sure if both are true, because the only 'evidence' I found were comments on Eorzea Database). Could be level 100 treasure maps too - I have yet to find one myself, so I only have comments as a source. But it has to be one of those three or a combination of them. Kind of proves my point though. An item so rare, databases have no aquisition data a couple of weeks after release >.<.

    Stone Partitions are definitely from 18 hour ventures though. I saw a Japanese screenshot of someone getting a partition from those.
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    I came to the forums to see if there's anyone discussing this. I share the OP's frustration.

    Neon lights definitely come from the level 100 18 hour ventures, DoW/DoM only. Stone Partitions I thought were from submarine missions? Maybe they're from both though.

    I'm on a new world and there have been ZERO of these on our MB, I've had two retainers running the proper expeditions and have not received any of them. On other worlds on Dynamis the Neon Wall Lights are going for millions of gil, despite really needing at least a few for any logical usage, and as far as I know there has NEVER been a Stone Partition on our MBs. It's punishing new worlds and anyone without a ton of gil, when there's ALREADY gil sinks in the game (large houses, various mounts, etc).

    And for the most part the people already doing ventures are the ones doing ventures for this: you need a leveled up battle retainer, you need to KNOW that these things come from ventures (meaning you looked them up separately), etc. And most people into housing are probably running ventures at least some times for some of the older ones that have rare mat drops for expensive housing items. And I sincerely doubt ventures are THAT unpopular that they needed to do this and the extremely low drop rates make it likely most people would give up, anyway.

    I mean, I NEVER get the housing dungeon drops, I've run some of the dungeons so many times I can barely stand to look at them, but at least then they'd be on my MB's for semi-affordable prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by colby0 View Post
    Neon lights definitely come from the level 100 18 hour ventures, DoW/DoM only. Stone Partitions I thought were from submarine missions? Maybe they're from both though.
    Stone Partitions are from Field Exploration XXXI, same as the Neon Wall Lights. Databases have aquisition data on the partitions, and also there is a Japanese Twitter post with a screenshot of someone who got one from there.
    After a week of sending 4 retainers on those ventures I have yet to see one, but I did get a single Horizontal Neon Wall Light though.
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    I have no problem with a few items being rare. They utterly crashed the furniture market already so most items are very cheap atm. I got one stone partition from my retainers and bought one for just 100k on the MB
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    I have no opinion one way or the other but if EU availability on the marketboard is low, it may be worth trying to connect with other world regions to trade the items. I arranged to buy some workshop materials on Discord and traveled to Materia DC to make the trade.
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    Altria Pendragons
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    You find it difficult to obtain it right away but if you wait a patch or two, you will find these items floating around and no one want it because of retainer venture. Countless items used to be rare but now sells for 3 digits. Patience is a virtue
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    M'yahrah Raha
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    I feel the other way, I wish a lot of crafted stuff could only be obtained from crafting.

    The current retainer system is messed up, the market is flooded with so much crafted furniture from ventures that some stuff sells under 1000 gil.
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by SillyCrow View Post
    I feel the other way, I wish a lot of crafted stuff could only be obtained from crafting.

    The current retainer system is messed up, the market is flooded with so much crafted furniture from ventures that some stuff sells under 1000 gil.
    There are still plenty of other items that don't turn up in quick ventures. It takes a little time doing market research but it's generally not hard to find some crafted items that others aren't selling or aren't selling enough of to meet demand so price per item is high compared to cost to make.
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