Some housing items should be available easier

[Xelanar]

How do items like Horizontal / Vertical Neon Wall Light and Stone Partition end up as random rewards from level 100 retainer ventures? The items might as well not even exist because of how long it takes to design something that requires a handfull of them.

How am I supposed to make a single room with Stone Partitions? Even with an unlimited amount of Gil, there is currently only 2 partitions in the entirety of Europe on the market boards, selling for 10 and 20 million. The supply is way too low and this is by design, because someone in charge of housing items decided it was a good idea to gate those behind retainer ventures, instead of having them easily available from the very start.

Neon Wall Lights could be a random dungeon drop from Vanguard. It fits the theme and everything.

I don't mind having vanity items gated behind retainers or submarines, i.e. plushies. But items that are required in bulk to design something? This is a trend I strongly dislike and it has been going on for some time now.

What even is the game design philosophy behind this? Is this supposed to be a Gil sink? Or a grind? Or an incentive to buy more retainers to increase chances of success? Or a legal way to convert RL-money into Gil? I don't know what it is supposed to be. But I can say what it IS: a disheartening practice to the detriment of housing enthusiasts, that I wish wasn't there.

Of course, some time in the future, items will be obtainable through other means. Why not start there in the first place?

I have no idea if this even reaches the devs or not. But at least I can hope.

[ThatsStellar]

It is entirely an incentive to do otherwise unpopular content from the game. It's not unique to retainers either, Eureka has unique furniture, old savages have unique furniture. Like you I'm annoyed the system works this way, but if it didn't then who's to say that part of content wouldn't die? A lot of people I know don't bother with ventures and just use retainers for storage, but having items locked behind leveling it encourages players to use them to their full extent and rewards them for doing so.

[Xelanar]

It is entirely an incentive to do otherwise unpopular content from the game. It's not unique to retainers either, Eureka has unique furniture, old savages have unique furniture. Like you I'm annoyed the system works this way, but if it didn't then who's to say that part of content wouldn't die? A lot of people I know don't bother with ventures and just use retainers for storage, but having items locked behind leveling it encourages players to use them to their full extent and rewards them for doing so.

I am perfectly fine with housing items being gated behind content like retainer ventures, submarines, Eureka or Alexander. You missed my point though.
I am calling out items being badly accessible that you require in bulk to do things. Meaning multiples. Lots of.

How am I supposed to build a room with Stone Partitions, if a single partition is only accessible through 18 hour ventures IF I get lucky? To make a single room I need say... 10 of those? Probably more, depending on size, but you get the idea.
The same goes for Neon Wall Lights. There is no way a single one is enough. Even to illuminate an apartment or a small house I would still need many.

These items are so inaccessible, that I cannot use them anywhere because of the amount required.

Hence I'm pleading to restrict incentivising items to vanity things like plushies or weapon stands, if the content they insentivise cannot be reasonably farmed.

[Crafoutis]

How am I supposed to build a room with Stone Partitions, if a single partition is only accessible through 18 hour ventures IF I get lucky? To make a single room I need say... 10 of those? Probably more, depending on size, but you get the idea.

You buy them from other players. That's how the free market works.

You want something rare. You pay for something rare.

You don't think it should be rare? Well that's the nature of rare stuff.

[Xelanar]

You buy them from other players. That's how the free market works.

You want something rare. You pay for something rare.

You don't think it should be rare? Well that's the nature of rare stuff.

You are missing the point. I already addressed what my actual issue is. It's not item rarity in general. It's making items rare that are required in bulk(that means many. A lot of). Stone Partitions and both Neon Wall Lights are poor choices for rare items.

Why do I think so? Because the entire European market currently cannot even supply enough to make a single room.

[Jojoya]

It's making items rare that are required in bulk(that means many. A lot of).

They are not required in bulk.

You choosing them to use them in bulk is a problem you've created for yourself.

Keep in mind that they're coming from the level 100 exploration ventures. Most players are still working on MSQ and if they aren't level 100 yet, then their retainers can't be level 100.

Once more players get their retainers to 100, the supply will increase and prices will drop. Give it a month. There will be a lot more retainers capable of doing the venture. Data center travel will be back and that will help improve access even more.

[Crafoutis]

You are missing the point. I already addressed what my actual issue is. It's not item rarity in general. It's making items rare that are required in bulk(that means many. A lot of). Stone Partitions and both Neon Wall Lights are poor choices for rare items.

Why do I think so? Because the entire European market currently cannot even supply enough to make a single room.

Sounds like that will make for one sick room once someone is able to collect enough of them, and paying the right price to all those excited sellers. People don't want to let go of theirs because they want to have that fancy new room style? Raise the buying price.

You're literally experiencing a free market and finding you don't like the game of it.

Whether or not you feel the items should be rare is irrelevant, they are rare. So you are going to have to pay for it.

[Arohk]

A lot of people I know don't bother with ventures and just use retainers for storage, but having items locked behind leveling it encourages players to use them to their full extent and rewards them for doing so.

people don't bother with ventures because it is completly unclear what a retainer can bring back or what is even available from ventures.

[Iscah]

At this early point in the expansion, give it some time. Maybe they're about to be the next Stuffed Bom Boko and the few for sale now are just coming from the first few people who actually bothered levelling their retainers to 100.

[Infindox]

Wait a bit and soon you will see them extremely cheap.