FFXIV: Do Better

[Menriq]

Because while encounters were pretty stale in EW the jobs have been stale since ShB

It’s hard to find a job to be engaged with the better content when they are 21 versions of food colour dyed oatmeal

I'm not disagreeing with the premise. In fact, people have argued the encounters were stale long before EW. As far as the jobs, it's been stated this problem might have been community driven to get us to the "2 minute meta". To many, they might have swung too far in that at the expense of job diversity. The impression that I've gotten is they are aware of this, and are trying to figure out the best way forward. I didn't read all of the healer thread, but I got the feeling the JP players felt differently about how healers are compared to other regions, which only adds to the complexity of how to address a problem that has different views.

I get the impression that DT job changes to Black Mage and Astro, combined with the threat of changes to Viper and the unneeded healing/mit buffs for tanks that worsen the Healer role situation, have exacerbated the issue of job design- hence this thread and the lack of patience for 8.0. Waiting till 8.0 is one thing, but DT might've made the problem worse?

It's always hard to wait for something when the situation is getting worse before getting better- and then throw in the years of wait going from expansion to expansion requires.

This is where I have no answer. They've made fundamental changes to jobs, and they've gotten mixed reviews (which is to be expected). Many people hated the changes to HW Bard, and those were changed back. MNK and SMN changes also come to mind. I feel like it's going to be something that even if they make changes, there are going to be unhappy parties. That doesn't mean changes shouldn't be made, but I honestly don't know how to address the issues. To me, it seems like there are many issues to the problem, and they are trying to untangle the knot from different angles. DT is addressing the content staleness, 8.0 will be job individualization, and then go from there.

[Azlith]

No need to worry OP, if you wanna play through the msq then your in luck! You don't actually play the game while watching the MSQ.