FFXIV: Do Better

[IDontPetLalas]

I've seen that study before, but there is a lot that it doesn't take into account. It doesn't go into the fact that games themselves have stopped asking gamers to think, to chase the "wider audience", nor does it go into the fact that anyone with a phone and Candy Crush can also consider themselves a gamer.

From the analysis details, it doesn't look like there were many factors that were considered. There was gender, demographic distribution and platform, however the demographics were extremely narrow "The mean age is 24.5, with a standard deviation of 7.33".

So the authors can tell how many were on PC, for example, but there's no indication of how many were on, for example, an MMORPG, as opposed to a solo game. Nor does it clearly factor in the considerable number of gamers that are older than around 30 years old. You may find this interesting https://headphonesaddict.com/pc-gaming-statistics/

[CerusSerenade]

Hello, all.

My sub ends tomorrow, so I believe this will be my last message for a while--maybe until 8.0. I have not touched a single minute of Dawntrail's story, its dungeons, or its content. Yet it's not because I'm burnt out of FFXIV. On the contrary, I have a very strong urge to play through Dawntrail's content, but what I have absolutely no drive to do whatsoever is put up with Endwalker job design any longer. It's a weird feeling, having both a constant urge to want to play the game and yet dreading the idea of actually playing the game. I want to explore the Story. I refuse to put up with Dosis spam. I want to try Arcadion. I am burnt out of DPS jobs. I want to see the upcoming field operations. I have no interest in trying tank jobs. I feel torn to say the least.

I'll get to the point. I love FFXIV, but I hate Endwalker PVE job design. I would play through the story as PVP Sage if I could, but I can't, and there's not a single PVE job that I want to touch with a 10 foot pole. Yoshi P, if you truly want FFXIV to be a game for everyone, do better.

Because this ongoing hyper simplified job design has alienated not just me, but many others who have also resigned and left the game. There has to be a better middle ground that's still approachable but doesn't exclude the players who want to engage with job design. Don't wait for 8.0 to make changes. Just waiting for 8.0 to address these issues is cutting corners when there are things you could do now to make job design more enjoyable without sweeping reworks.

Make healers more enjoyable now. Leave Viper alone for the players who enjoy its complexity. Restore nonstandard gameplay aspects to Black Mage and other jobs as well. There is a healthy middle ground you can achieve with job design, and this is clearly not it. Goodbye for now everyone, I hope all of you are able to find enjoyment in the jobs even if I cannot and enjoy what Dawntrail has in store. I sincerely hope I can return sooner rather than later.

That's neat. See you in a week.

[ty_taurus]

That's neat. See you in a week.

Watch my level sit at 90 and eat my nouliths.

[LaylaTsarra]

Watch my level sit at 90 and eat my nouliths.

Enjoy your new game it's fine one doesn't have to stay if they aren't happy.

[CerusSerenade]

Watch my level sit at 90 and eat my nouliths.

91 Gunbreaker and 81 Viper. Seems you've done plenty of playing already.

I guess a week was a massive overshot.

[Thari]

Game has still enough Players who why would they care about a few people? Its like the Healerstrikes its a MINORITY nobody cares about it, only a handful people.

Quoted this guy

[Connor]

I truly wish it weren’t the case but I see absolutely no scenario in which the devs make any major changes to any job pre-8.0. They’ll be too terrified of messing up their precious raid balance

[Connor]

Again with this infamous homogenization that only exist in the mind of few.
yeah each role share some core gameplay mechaic, but that's all.

Tank have tools to get the aggro and to mitigate some damages.... but seriously, if you play a GNB like you play a WAR.... Sorry i don't want you as a Tank.
The same, if you play SGE like you play AST.... Wipe incoming.
Etc...etc...

Sharing some core gameplay mechanic doesn't mean homogenization like this forum love to scream about it.
I tested all the job to some extend (at least to level 70 for thoses i hated), and i never got the same feelings from each job. yeah they were some similarities on some role (healer and tank), but past level 50 it slowy began to fade away to enter the realm of each have they own rotation and gameplay while retaining some core mechanic.
In my book this isn't Homogenization.... If we had one, each job would exactly look the same gameplay with the same rotation, with the skills a copy of each other, just with a different job name and job skills name ... Which it isn't the case..... The only part were you feel a sort of Homogenization is under the level 50.... So, i assume that thoses that talk about it, never get pass level 50 with a lot of jobs

This is because they do their homogenisation in weird ‘class pairs’. Obviously comparing Sage and Astrologian doesn’t work because they aren’t ‘paired’, but if you compare Sage with Scholar suddenly you start to realise it’s the essentially same job twice. Likewise comparing White Mage and Astrologian. For other roles like phys ranged, Bard and Dancer are paired, so looking at their skill sets they have a ton of equivalents and very similar skills overall.

It’s maybe not as black and white as being
‘absolute homogenous’ or ‘none whatsoever’, but there are definitely some very heavily homogenised designs between the ‘class pairs’ they’ve set up.

[ZephyrMenodora]

This is because they do their homogenisation in weird ‘class pairs’. Obviously comparing Sage and Astrologian doesn’t work because they aren’t ‘paired’, but if you compare Sage with Scholar suddenly you start to realise it’s the essentially same job twice. Likewise comparing White Mage and Astrologian. For other roles like phys ranged, Bard and Dancer are paired, so looking at their skill sets they have a ton of equivalents and very similar skills overall.

It’s maybe not as black and white as being
‘absolute homogenous’ or ‘none whatsoever’, but there are definitely some very heavily homogenised designs between the ‘class pairs’ they’ve set up.

I don't feel the same playing any of the healers. They all have some basic skills but what I am doing and the feel of it changes a lot. I don't play AST the same as WHM, even if they have the same 4 basic GCD heals and some basic concepts overlap.

[DynnDiablos]

Bye felicia.