EX mount drop rates still trash.

[Kuroka]

We just roll to high, our dice should only go 1-8 or 1-16 or whatever, it just sucks when you roll 91 and three guys beat you. Next time you get that f-you 1 and the mount goes to an 26 or something lol

Also, after one or two weeks we should be able to buy the mount. Either youre crazy and run 500 runs till you get it, stop at 99 and wait, or just never do it at all... imo dont let us buy em but make an 99 kills achievement.

[CNitsah]

To be fair, upping the drop rate would probably push players to try extreme more often. At the same time, they want players to engage in difficult content more, and then they go "You see the mount you might want to do the extreme for, well, you have very low drop, and if you do it 99 times, you can have the mount in 8 month". Of course they won't bother. Mount should be the carrot that will push players into extremes, not the reward for those who're gonna do it anyway.

Sometime I feel they simplify things everywhere but at the place they should.

[xxmiamorecadenza]

Dang. I got the EX 2 wings on my first clear. I guess I’m just super lucky.

[4clubbedace]

Just because it's 'always' that artificially scarced does not mean that this is good.
Often they talk about respecting the player's time. And then they make such low droprates and make people farm 99 totems and wait a long time.
Droprates should be minimum 33%. Would be still timeconsuming enough.

drop rates are increased when the next one releases, just farm it later then

[Taranok]

I like to think of it this way.

On average, it takes ~10 minutes per run. With a good group, you can get it to under 9 minutes reliably. With a meh group, 10:30 is enrage, I think. Give or take. I digress.

Assuming 10 minutes per run and 99 clears, which assumes a lot of lost time even with efficient kills finding groups, loading in, breaks, etc, that's still ~16.5 hours to get enough totems for 1 mount.

To put some perspective on this number, it is above the time it takes to grind an entire zeta efficiently from beginning to end (ignoring open ended grinds like poetics,) about the amount of time you might unreasonably wish to spend grinding the entire delubrum reginae step for all ShB relics (assuming 20m completion times, which was doable, this is also very estimated and based on fuzzy memory,) and is about 60% the time of 1 eureka relic from start to finish (hey, devs, can you please make eureka relics not eye-watering grinds? It's been over half a decade, please nerf the grind already.)

A player might reasonably want to grind all 6 extreme mounts as it comes out, and get awful luck never getting a single mount from RNG. Which comes out to a cool, even 100 hours. Which is...about the grind time of the original zeta relics from start to finish, but also estimated because luck was a major factor.

This is optimized, no downtime, no wasted runs, 10 minutes average. Which is far from real world conditions.

Personally, I'd be okay with this cut in half, third, or even a quarter of this value. ~100 hours idealized is a bit ridiculous considering the hidden costs not factored in and the frustration of losing yet another RNG drop.

I get it, the devs want it to be a grind. This is 'Clearing an ultimate for the first time' levels of commitment and it's a bit silly for a special mount.

That's just my 2 cents, would be nice if the devs made the grind less silly now and going forward for all future extremes. This is temporary content that is not specifically supposed to be a major long-term grind, so it would be nice to just not be a major long-term grind.

[IvoryHawk]

For the love of god please increase the drops rates. Do the devs really think it’s fun, running the same trial repeatedly, possibly 99 times is fun? Just to roll single digits when they do drop? When people can be doing other content or leveling other jobs..

Honestly i'd love even just to have the mount buyable from day one, even if it had to be 300 totems or so, then going down to 99 later, a friend in my FC spent over 800 clears going for Zeromus mount, this time i just decided to put a PF up for 2m per person on mount drop and the wings dropped on the first damn clear, everyone came away with gil, and it's totally legal to do so before anyone starts yapping.

[Straticus]

The stupid thing is that you can't even buy them on release. You just have to wait 6-8 months. Which is absurd.

[Venarius]

Generation instant gratification taking another L. You love to see it.

[Volgia]

I like the idea of exclusive and hard to get items, its kind of cool to see people hanging around with those things, I guess bragging rights items they call it?

It's part of the lifeblood of an MMO, and you get it down the line once you have your 99 totems, so this is just a non-complaint.

[Shikiseki]

Maybe I'm getting old but is that supposed to be fun to run content 100+ times that require you to watch a super mario double dash conga hector lector HTTMLDPSSPS PF strat, only to show it off to.. whom exactly? Those few gatherers on the overworld? Level 5 sprouts in lower la noscea? Waiting for snek?

I could get behind it if battles were a bit more dynamic and random in this game but it's basically the same dance a hundred times over lol. Nice for those who like it but honestly a whole lot of wasted time on mindless repititon for a piece of data. I think 50 runs was the max I could tolerate tbh but even that is really pushing it...