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  1. #1
    Player
    Vhoxz's Avatar
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    Character
    Vhoxz Cloudsword
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurora428 View Post
    The game's unwillingness to tune mobility and utility to their actual worth and instead just destroying the job's damage is one of my least favorite things about this game.

    I'm still wrapping my head around them reworking SMN the way they did when they knew they were going to make it terrible lol
    I don't think the initial summoner rework was terrible. Yes, it was a bit simple, but it was a nice start to build on. Now, however, it seems they're not planning on building on it at all. And it's the most boring job to play by far. There was a lot of potential... that they did nothing with.
    I have to agree that gutting a job's damage is a sad way of trying to balance things. It's like a checklist for them. Ranged: -5% dmg. Have ress: -5% damage. Have damage buff: -10% damage. It's just a horrible way of doing things. The only reason I can see why mobile ranged classes are doing less damage is because they want to keep melee relevant in group content. Otherwise, everyone would just bring 4 ranged dps.
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    Taranok's Avatar
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    Character
    Arilaya Syldove
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanvaldear View Post
    Are we transitioning from Meleewalker straight into Meleetrail?
    Another xpac of ranged being second class citizens?
    Too early to tell but I'm placing my bets on it.
    It's not too early. Dawntrail is continuing most of the trends Endwalker created. Highly reactive boss design, extremely tight mechanics that don't play nicely with ping (especially orb mechanics...) that occasionally fire out of order. And, oh yeah, the devs giving everyone with a cast bar the middle finger.

    It seems they want mDPS to be stronger than rDPS and cDPS, and they're designing fights that will give even Samurais and Reapers pause. So, yeah, meleetrail. Screw casters and cater to melee, the expansion, version 2.0.
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    Lyth's Avatar
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    Lythia Norvaine
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    You're getting mixed up with Pictotrail. Don't worry, you definitely still have options available to you if you're only able to keep up with sub-30 APM caster gameplay with scheduled coffee breaks between button inputs. Yoshi-p was always going to look out for his main role.
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    Bucky Buns
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Reaper Lv 100
    I don't think so. the new raid fights are complete ASS as a melee. Can barely hit the things.
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    Corwin Sunchaser
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lanvaldear View Post
    Are we transitioning from Meleewalker straight into Meleetrail?
    Another xpac of ranged being second class citizens?
    Too early to tell but I'm placing my bets on it.
    Not too early, even if some bosses don't allow for full melee uptime, it'll only make melee dps go down to ranged dps level while still being king in all other bosses.
    And they removed even more positionals because wall bosses and true north was not enough, so melee is even easier than before.
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    Thyrand Testarossa
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    I love ranged complaining about melees when they got it way easier in every single aspect in this game
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    Corwin Sunchaser
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrand View Post
    I love ranged complaining about melees when they got it way easier in every single aspect in this game
    This guy plays SAM so a difficult class right? I mean it's obviously harder than let's say... BRD or BLM right?
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    Thyrand Testarossa
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Corwin_Sunchaser View Post
    This guy plays SAM so a difficult class right? I mean it's obviously harder than let's say... BRD or BLM right?
    My dude, you play the easiest role in this game and most of you STILL struggles to basic mechs lmao, and before being sarcastic about someone playing Sam, I'd advice you to try playing it in an optimized environment before being smug about it
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    Character
    Galveira Vorfeed
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Thyrand View Post
    My dude, you play the easiest role in this game and most of you STILL struggles to basic mechs lmao, and before being sarcastic about someone playing Sam, I'd advice you to try playing it in an optimized environment before being smug about it
    I agree that phys ranged is the easiest dps role on average, but BRD is definitely more challenging than the other two phys ranged jobs, and more challenging than some casters and most melee.
    Especially if you die and need to resync everything, it's extremely painful.
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