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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Grainne Gothram
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
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    Punishment is good, but being unable to recover is just unfun. Everyones raid buffs at 2 mins all will always buff the same amount % bard is the only one who if they die loses the % buff and the damage from the attack afterwards. Due to how songs CDs work this might take a few buff cycles to realign or you will just have to provide no buffs for a while to force it to realign. Which makes you lose out on the gameplay changes they do to bard, making it really boring healer level rotation. It's completely different from losing battery from machinist because you will always have your 2 minute buffs. Bard who dies does become pretty worthless for that buff cycle, at least a dancer who dies raidbuff will be consistent, after all you don't take these jobs for their damage.

    I just don't think song rotation suits bard at all. Dancer is so much more burst buff focused that I think giving it 3 dances for it's own radiant finale works better then bard having song rotation. idk if current bard is worse at recovery then SB machinist I don't know but I will say it's one of the worst in DT at recovering at death with maybe BLM being worse.
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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Punishment is good, but being unable to recover is just unfun. Everyones raid buffs at 2 mins all will always buff the same amount % bard is the only one who if they die loses the % buff and the damage from the attack afterwards. Due to how songs CDs work this might take a few buff cycles to realign or you will just have to provide no buffs for a while to force it to realign. Which makes you lose out on the gameplay changes they do to bard, making it really boring healer level rotation. It's completely different from losing battery from machinist because you will always have your 2 minute buffs. Bard who dies does become pretty worthless for that buff cycle, at least a dancer who dies raidbuff will be consistent, after all you don't take these jobs for their damage.

    I just don't think song rotation suits bard at all. Dancer is so much more burst buff focused that I think giving it 3 dances for it's own radiant finale works better then bard having song rotation. idk if current bard is worse at recovery then SB machinist I don't know but I will say it's one of the worst in DT at recovering at death with maybe BLM being worse.
    I don't understand your obsession with a loss of 2-4% on Coda tbh. This is such a specific thing to get bent upon... It's damage you lose, and it's part of the penalty for dying. Some jobs have more damage loss than others, sometimes it comes from pure resource based damage like MCH, sometimes it also comes a bit from Coda like BRD. I really don't get the issue, especially since Finale can still be used with even just one song registered.

    As for the fun ruined by being songless for 30s until you can go back to the next song as if nothing happened, I really don't think it's a problem either, especially because when you get raised, you generally have other things to take care of than going back to full high octane APM with repertoire procs, but I do hear the argument.

    I also don't feel that DNC is better suited to it either, that sounds like a purely subjective on "vibe" to me. And you'd translate to DNC what you find problematic on BRD right now, so I'm not sure of the point being swapping the system with DNC. What for? Just a vibe?
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