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    Valence's Avatar
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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Twintania
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Let's not push it BRD is far from complex at a basic level. It's just finicky, not intuitive and annoying to optimize, but it's not exact rocket science either.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    Phys range is in a bad spot
    Bard is still a very awful job due to the tripling down on the song rotation and radiant finale.
    Dancer basically became more brainless and overcaps on esprit like hell.
    Machinist feels fine I guess but it's damage is awful.

    Yeah bringing a picto to replace Phys range is a better choice tbh. Even RDM too since it has a raid buff and a raid shield. Phys range needs a complete role rework.
    What's wrong with the song rotation? Besides that the recast could be adjusted? I think it's a neat and unique concept proper to the job. I'd kill to get something flavorful like that on mch...
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    Let's not push it BRD is far from complex at a basic level. It's just finicky, not intuitive and annoying to optimize, but it's not exact rocket science either.



    What's wrong with the song rotation? Besides that the recast could be adjusted? I think it's a neat and unique concept proper to the job. I'd kill to get something flavorful like that on mch...
    I mean finicky not intuitive and annoying to optimise are exactly what makes it a difficult job

    Think about it at baseline SAM is just keep banana up, do your midare loops spam shinten with kenki. Optimising it at baseline involves hagakure filler sticker dumps but it’s in the same position in the sense of it’s easy to just press everything as it lights up and do decent damage

    BRD isn’t as hard to gold parse optimise as SAM but I’d certainly have it as harder than RPR, harder than NIN and around the DRG level
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Pepper Oni
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    I mean finicky not intuitive and annoying to optimise are exactly what makes it a difficult job

    Think about it at baseline SAM is just keep banana up, do your midare loops spam shinten with kenki. Optimising it at baseline involves hagakure filler sticker dumps but it’s in the same position in the sense of it’s easy to just press everything as it lights up and do decent damage

    BRD isn’t as hard to gold parse optimise as SAM but I’d certainly have it as harder than RPR, harder than NIN and around the DRG level
    Well, then you also have third eye and a lot of trial and error to see what you can get away with.
    With some support, you can even take some tankbusters JUST for 10 extra Kenki. That's largely why parsing as Sam is difficult. Most of us don't go that extra mile.
    The job itself isn't really complex- none of the jobs in this game are. I mean, i've seen groups let the Sam pull every fight JUST for 10 Kenki after the auto attack.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 07-19-2024 at 09:09 PM.

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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    What's wrong with the song rotation? Besides that the recast could be adjusted? I think it's a neat and unique concept proper to the job. I'd kill to get something flavorful like that on mch...
    If you die all of your songs are messed up and you lose all your damage and your reason for being there. Radiant finale buffs less, you do less damage and overall its incredibly punishing and so hard to recover from. It also means you have to stare at your song gauge often to see if your at the right time to switch songs so you can align with the 2 minute burst. If the game wasnt designed around raid buff alignment it would be more fine I would still hate it because this whole system reads Dancer far more to me then bard.
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