Meleewalker to Meleetrail

[AddictedToWitches]

Are we transitioning from Meleewalker straight into Meleetrail?
Another xpac of ranged being second class citizens?
Too early to tell but I'm placing my bets on it.

Oh nooooo muh ranged aren't the highest DPS so they are second class citizens
this is pathetic dude, the DPS ranges have almost always been so close between jobs in this game that if everyone knows what they're doing you could probably clear all ultimates with like 4 machinists as your DPS

[Ggwppino]

If all melee is buffed considerably, or the PCT is nerfed the BLM remains as is and the hitboxes remain as large as the arena, I agree, it will be a Meleetrail.
If this is not the case, perhaps we will see the right balance, where those who actually have to sweat for uptime will be rewarded if they manage to optimize it.


As for the phys range, unfortunately they have been stripped of their importance because they are too stressful (according to the complainers and designers who listen to them) and therefore until they have a uniqueness (in addition to having 100% guaranteed uptime), sadly they will remain afloat thanks to only 1% raid buff.

[Lyth]

PCT is entirely responsible for BLM's current situation. The dev team wants to ensure that PCT gets used in raid content, which means that it needs to be unambiguously better than BLM. If the damage difference wasn't obvious, the tank-level raidwide mitigation tool should have been. We've seen them do this sort of thing before. It's certainly not done for job balance.

[Galvuu]

PCT is entirely responsible for BLM's current situation. The dev team wants to ensure that PCT gets used in raid content, which means that it needs to be unambiguously better than BLM. If the damage difference wasn't obvious, the tank-level raidwide mitigation tool should have been. We've seen them do this sort of thing before. It's certainly not done for job balance.

Naaah... SE is just really clueless. BLM could do 5k more adps and it'd still feel awful to play.
XIV has a history of baffling changes nobody asked for across many jobs. They just have no idea what they're doing.
Kaiten removal, the healer disaster of ShB, DRK getting gutted twice in a row, MNK losing it's GL and positionals, and the list could go on, but you get the idea.

[rewd]

PCT is entirely responsible for BLM's current situation. The dev team wants to ensure that PCT gets used in raid content, which means that it needs to be unambiguously better than BLM. If the damage difference wasn't obvious, the tank-level raidwide mitigation tool should have been. We've seen them do this sort of thing before. It's certainly not done for job balance.

This conspiracy theory could maybe (big maybe) make sense if there wasn't a balance patch scheduled with already announced BLM buffs.

[Ramiee]

My dude, you play the easiest role in this game and most of you STILL struggles to basic mechs lmao, and before being sarcastic about someone playing Sam, I'd advice you to try playing it in an optimized environment before being smug about it

I mean SAM is really easy. It's always been really easy but that's it's appeal. Wouldn't say it's easier than RPR or VPR though but BRD is certainly harder then SAM mostly due to how punishing BRD is. But this is more of the game Devs terrible design choices then any actual difficulty in how it plays.

[Lyth]

The 7.05 plan for BLM is pretty vague, to be honest. 'Plans to make further changes to action potencies' makes it sound like they've made part of their intended adjustments already. I wouldn't be making raid plans based off of that.

The crux of the problem is the schism within casters around access to raise. Raise is a powerful enough progression tool that it can guarantee a slot on its own. The fact that PCT was introduced without raise puts it in a fight for its life against BLM. I'm sure that BLM will be viable, but they're clearly pushing people towards PCT.

[Ramiee]

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Punishment is good, but being unable to recover is just unfun. Everyones raid buffs at 2 mins all will always buff the same amount % bard is the only one who if they die loses the % buff and the damage from the attack afterwards. Due to how songs CDs work this might take a few buff cycles to realign or you will just have to provide no buffs for a while to force it to realign. Which makes you lose out on the gameplay changes they do to bard, making it really boring healer level rotation. It's completely different from losing battery from machinist because you will always have your 2 minute buffs. Bard who dies does become pretty worthless for that buff cycle, at least a dancer who dies raidbuff will be consistent, after all you don't take these jobs for their damage.

I just don't think song rotation suits bard at all. Dancer is so much more burst buff focused that I think giving it 3 dances for it's own radiant finale works better then bard having song rotation. idk if current bard is worse at recovery then SB machinist I don't know but I will say it's one of the worst in DT at recovering at death with maybe BLM being worse.

[Valence]

Punishment is good, but being unable to recover is just unfun. Everyones raid buffs at 2 mins all will always buff the same amount % bard is the only one who if they die loses the % buff and the damage from the attack afterwards. Due to how songs CDs work this might take a few buff cycles to realign or you will just have to provide no buffs for a while to force it to realign. Which makes you lose out on the gameplay changes they do to bard, making it really boring healer level rotation. It's completely different from losing battery from machinist because you will always have your 2 minute buffs. Bard who dies does become pretty worthless for that buff cycle, at least a dancer who dies raidbuff will be consistent, after all you don't take these jobs for their damage.

I just don't think song rotation suits bard at all. Dancer is so much more burst buff focused that I think giving it 3 dances for it's own radiant finale works better then bard having song rotation. idk if current bard is worse at recovery then SB machinist I don't know but I will say it's one of the worst in DT at recovering at death with maybe BLM being worse.

I don't understand your obsession with a loss of 2-4% on Coda tbh. This is such a specific thing to get bent upon... It's damage you lose, and it's part of the penalty for dying. Some jobs have more damage loss than others, sometimes it comes from pure resource based damage like MCH, sometimes it also comes a bit from Coda like BRD. I really don't get the issue, especially since Finale can still be used with even just one song registered.

As for the fun ruined by being songless for 30s until you can go back to the next song as if nothing happened, I really don't think it's a problem either, especially because when you get raised, you generally have other things to take care of than going back to full high octane APM with repertoire procs, but I do hear the argument.

I also don't feel that DNC is better suited to it either, that sounds like a purely subjective on "vibe" to me. And you'd translate to DNC what you find problematic on BRD right now, so I'm not sure of the point being swapping the system with DNC. What for? Just a vibe?

[Ramiee]

I don't understand your obsession with a loss of 2-4% on Coda tbh. This is such a specific thing to get bent upon... It's damage you lose, and it's part of the penalty for dying. Some jobs have more damage loss than others, sometimes it comes from pure resource based damage like MCH, sometimes it also comes a bit from Coda like BRD. I really don't get the issue, especially since Finale can still be used with even just one song registered.

As for the fun ruined by being songless for 30s until you can go back to the next song as if nothing happened, I really don't think it's a problem either, especially because when you get raised, you generally have other things to take care of than going back to full high octane APM with repertoire procs, but I do hear the argument.

I also don't feel that DNC is better suited to it either, that sounds like a purely subjective on "vibe" to me. And you'd translate to DNC what you find problematic on BRD right now, so I'm not sure of the point being swapping the system with DNC. What for? Just a vibe?

It's because it's the only raidbuff in the game that loses % it directly effects bards main purpose it also effects the damage that comes out afterwards from the follow up attack. So you do bad damage and you have a bad buff. Bards best attribute is it's buff, having a weaker buff from dying makes you inferior to Dancer. I'm not sure if you played current bard in savage, I did for p5-7s and it was really bad and unfun. I also played it recently for the current extremes and it isn't better if anything it's gotten worse.

Unless buffs realign and I am using wanderers for burst bards damage plummets down so far a tank can overtake it. Bard does way too little damage so if you don't stay rigidly optimised you will have absurdly low damage. If a tank can out damage a DPS why would you ever take that DPS to encounters with enrage timers.

It is subjective, everything I say is subjective obviously. There are people who love new summoner others who hate it. I think it suits dancer with more songs because dancer does exclusively burst buffs while bard has consistent buffs I think dancer gaining one extra dance or even using the new flourish finale to buff devilment or something would work better for dancer then bards radiant finale. Foe's requiem always suited the burst period better for bard then radiant finale ever has.