Difficulty of normal content.

[Lucyfurr1988]

the devs getting comfortable with players dying is a good and healthy thing for the game.

for too long its been dubbed okay for players to not learn how to play their jobs and do mechanics.

the game should get harder as you progress through it. if level 50 dungeons are the same difficulty as level 100 ones then there's no sense of progression.

these 'hard' mechanics are not much harder than what weve had before. its about time to start learning to play the game

[Lucyfurr1988]

Can we cut it out with "the game maybe isn't for you anymore". I think we grew too accustomed to tell that to new players that criticize the game without finishing ARR, but you don't understand how awful is to say that to a person that sunk god only knows how many hours into the game, that the game they love is kicking them into the curb for no fault of their own, and you don't understand how disheartening it is because it's not being said to you.

And rest assured that the people that don't enjoy the game anymore won't be playing it, only WoW players keep playing a game they actively hate and even they have a limit.

have you ever heard of the sunk cost fallacy?

[Banggugyangu]

I'll reiterate my first point in my previous post:

You should not end an expansion at the same level of skill as you started it. As your character levels up, your skill level should likewise level up. Where you start and end in that spectrum may be different than other players, and that's fine, but if your skill level is a 5 (arbitrary number, obviously) at the start of an expansion and remains a 5 at the end of the expansion, then what is the point of playing the game? At that point, just watch a youtuber play it, and save yourself the disappointment of the inevitable failure. Games that are truly engaging make you desire to become better at them. If you don't feel that desire when playing a game, then said game is truthfully not for you. I'm not saying don't play FFXIV. I'm thrilled for anyone who plays, however they choose to play. I'm just making a statement on general mentality. If you don't feel a desire to improve, then the game is not an engaging game for you, and you would be better playing a game that you DO feel that desire on. (Obviously this only applies primarily to games which have innate skill requirements. I can't imagine anyone has had a desire to improve at cookie clicker. [Don't link the codebullet video....])

[Deslyxic]

Would you be interested in running content alongside me to help you learn/understand the newer dungeons if you're still having problems? I wanna see in real time what players who are having this issue are experiencing or having trouble with to help myself understand where opinions like this are coming from! I'm an upstart livestreamer and would love to not only hear your opinion in more depth but also get into content alongside you, not to flame you or make you out to be a bad player but to have a log to potentially share with other players like yourself to maybe help them either reach out or understand content better.

Please message me back if you're interested! Same goes for anyone else who is having problems with Dawntrail content I'd love to help people not only improve but also be heard.

I genuinely thank you for your offer. But I don't have trouble completing the duties, everything I started in DT I finished. As of today there are only two duties that I started and haven't completed, that be E6S, that after like the fourth party that disbanded after hitting enrage made me realize of a misery was doing savages on PF (haven't done savage ever since); and Endsinger ex, that to be honest I did like 3 attempts with one PF group and then forgot about it. But after Barbariccia ex I realized that I wasn't having fun either, so I gave up on EXs perfectly happy with just chilling normal raids.
My issue with DT is it has not chill, it gets me stressed even if we are clearing it to the point of making the whole thing unenjoyable. So, sorry if you thought me a helpless sprout, that was never my intention but I didn't thought my resume had anything to do with my opinions.

But I do hope that any person that might be actually having trouble clearing content take you on your offer. Cheers.

[Lucyfurr1988]

I genuinely thank you for your offer. But I don't have trouble completing the duties, everything I started in DT I finished. As of today there are only two duties that I started and haven't completed, that be E6S, that after like the fourth party that disbanded after hitting enrage made me realize of a misery was doing savages on PF (haven't done savage ever since); and Endsinger ex, that to be honest I did like 3 attempts with one PF group and then forgot about it. But after Barbariccia ex (first week clear, if it counts for something) I realized that I wasn't having fun either, so I gave up on EXs perfectly happy with just chilling normal raids.
My issue with DT is it has not chill, it gets me stressed even if we are clearing it. So, sorry if you thought me a helpless sprout, that was never my intention but I didn't thought my resume had anything to do with my opinions.

But I do hope that any person that might be actually having trouble clearing content take you on your offer. Cheers.

the fact that you've made a post stating that content is too hard. which would only be don if youre having issues with it. then have repeatedly afterwards said that you have no issues and stating that youve played for years and are not 'a helpless sprout'.

lets get real here.

this post wouldnt exist if you were actually good at the game

you are struggling (which is fine)

years played does not equal skill level

being closeminded to offers of help shows that you have no interest in actually learning to play the game and would rather have things so brain dead easy that youre not even really playing a game.

ALL gamnes get more difficult as you progress. SB SHB and EW SHOULD be easier - they're lower level.

take the advice given to you or just stop moaning. youve been offered some really good advice and help but are rejecting it cause ItS ToO hArD bUt I dOnT wAnNa LeArN

[Axxion]

the op edit the post today and being very disingenuous. this post made it rounds to a lot of media and more than one content creator. this seems you made this who thread in bad faith

[BradyWard]

I genuinely thank you for your offer. But I don't have trouble completing the duties, everything I started in DT I finished. As of today there are only two duties that I started and haven't completed, that be E6S, that after like the fourth party that disbanded after hitting enrage made me realize of a misery was doing savages on PF (haven't done savage ever since); and Endsinger ex, that to be honest I did like 3 attempts with one PF group and then forgot about it. But after Barbariccia ex I realized that I wasn't having fun either, so I gave up on EXs perfectly happy with just chilling normal raids.
My issue with DT is it has not chill, it gets me stressed even if we are clearing it to the point of making the whole thing unenjoyable. So, sorry if you thought me a helpless sprout, that was never my intention but I didn't thought my resume had anything to do with my opinions.

But I do hope that any person that might be actually having trouble clearing content take you on your offer. Cheers.

, so this was just a rage bait thread ?

[Moonweaver]

Fights are difficult when the mechanics are unfamiliar. The more you see a mechanic and the more you practice it, the easier it will become to dodge/resolve. Saying that the fights are "too difficult" presupposes that the fight will remain so for the rest of the expansion's life cycle, and thus people are not able to learn and make their and other people's experience easier. That is objectively untrue. Many people learn by doing, they are kinestetic learners, or learn by being explained a mechanic.

A genuine offer to practice that you shrugged off indicates your unwillingness to learn. You think it is beneath you to practice? How do you think Savage/Ultimate Raiders even become Savage/Ultimate Raiders in the first place?! Through ungodly amounts of hours dedicated to practice that they are willing to put in to better themselves. Your unwillingness to learn or even accept help in content that you are struggling with, is not a problem with the game! That is a you problem.

How will the fight STOP being difficult? With practice! Don't ask the devs to fix a problem that is only existent in your mind!

[Deslyxic]

, so this was just a rage bait thread ?

No, I genuinely think the normal content is too hard for normal. I stand by what I wrote.

[Lizvette]

, so this was just a rage bait thread ?

probably, yeah, they're just overdoing it at this point.

well, thankfully, community at large agrees this is fine and it's here to stay, no matter how much other detractors whine about big bad youtubers.