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  1. #731
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    holydiver1286's Avatar
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    Amiria Centani
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    I have very few posts. I think I've only commented on one post before in the entire 10 years I've been playing this game. That doesn't matter even in the least. I literally decided to make the rare effort to login to these forums specifically to reply to your post because it's just such a bad take. There wasn't even a need to watch a streamer to figure that out. When you have this many comments all giving you the advice to actually learn how to play the game, that's saying something. If you've been playing as long as you say you have, and have seen these style of mechanics over and over and over again but say they're too hard, that means you have completely refused to learn and/or pay any attention to anything. Are some people rude with how they reply? Sure, but they're not wrong in the idea of what they're saying. You have years of "experience" playing the game, you're level 100, and this is optional content. You have the option of not doing it. As I mentioned in my previous comment, there's other people that join XIV, sometimes level/story skip meaning they don't have any lengthy learning opportunities like you have, and are trying savage or ultimate within a month. It's all about how much effort you put into it. Also you're confusing what casual means. Casual does not mean brain dead easy. It means that the content can be cleared by any group without the need for voice chat or extra coordination of any kind with random people. The normal raids certainly fall within that category. Anyone can clear these fights and most do on their first attempt from all the runs that I've seen or been in. Learn from dying to things. Oh no, you died? Get back up and try it again, learning from what killed you and to not do that again. You don't lose anything from dying other than a little time. If you want an enemy that just sits there and lets you beat them down without having to do anything, go fight a random monster in the world or a striking dummy. If you still refuse to learn from everything said here, maybe this game, or at the very least optional content, just isn't for you. There's nothing wrong with that. But you actively refusing to learn how to play and then saying that it's the game's fault is just insane.
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  2. #732
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    thordan_inss's Avatar
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    Clair Dauphin
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    u can learn bro

    but talking serious here, u are refusing to learn the basics of the game, u are playing for 6 years right? u have seen almost everything in mechanical terms, NOTHING in this new raid series is completly new, its just a bit faster, put some effort in ur gameplay and u will be good
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    Last edited by thordan_inss; 07-20-2024 at 02:01 AM.

  3. #733
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    There are now 730 posts in this thread. 710 of them are not from OP. It's sad to see someone like Arthars raid the official forums just to take down one (1) person he doesn't like. Hundreds of people against one. Why is Final Fantasy XIV like this?
    People are well aware of this post without any streamers bring extra attention to it. From a personal standpoint, the last person I'd be taking advice from or following for any reason is Arthars. And his friend Xeno for that matter.
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  4. #734
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    Naoto Seijima
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    Quote Originally Posted by JowyAtreides View Post
    I'd challenge the OP to go into older, familiar normal raids, at minimum ilvl (because face it, this is what we all are right now until we gear up), and see exactly how the difficulty compares.

    I think you'll probably find it's a bit more of a challenge than you remember.
    People still wipe half the time on Soul of the Creator in roulettes.
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  5. #735
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    Defeth Kinath
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    There are now 730 posts in this thread. 710 of them are not from OP. It's sad to see someone like Arthars raid the official forums just to take down one (1) person he doesn't like. Hundreds of people against one. Why is Final Fantasy XIV like this?
    Obviously content creators made this post kinda "famous".

    But people were already disagreeing with OP in the first place and the post had already some traction before.

    Also, unlike some of your comments, new players are welcome to the game, even if they skip. All is about attitude. That's also why people got hostile towards OP. If they're willing to learn and take advice, all is good ! If they're getting defensive like OP "I've played this game for 6 years !", obviously people are not gonna be patient with them.

    New players are fine, FFXIV won't die because of the shift of combat design. FFXIV, as an online game, needs to change and develop itself. Not stalling the same formula again and again. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The change in boss design (and not game design unlike what you said earlier, or even fundamentals, because fundamentals are the same as before) is in a decent place right now without pushing too much the old engine and being overly difficult for your average casual player.
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    Last edited by Kiurt; 07-20-2024 at 02:22 AM.

  6. #736
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    Quote Originally Posted by JadeCurtiss View Post
    People still wipe half the time on Soul of the Creator in roulettes.
    I forget myself, we still regularly get larboard and starboard wrong in Omega fight within this community!
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  7. #737
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  8. #738
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    Macchi Ato
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    Quote Originally Posted by AurisNix View Post
    well absolutely no cuz this deserves to be reacted, cuz yeah at some point it got hilarious and totally crazy how learning to play the game is an actual issue. I wouldn't be surprised to see more streamers reacting to this and disagreeing with the game being too hard.
    If what you say is true, then OP might be the most influential person in Final Fantasy XIV besides the director. He or she alone has influenced this community more than Dawntrail itself. No other thread on any other topic has had this much attention. All OP did was make one post stating his or her opinion and the entire Internet implodes.

    At this point, you all are just talking to yourselves. There is no discussion, and you don't want one either. Why are people even pretending that OP is going to read 746 posts? The entire community is just a hivemind dogpiling over the one (1) person who posted a contrary opinion.
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  9. #739
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    Tsuki Hori
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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    If what you say is true, then OP might be the most influential person in Final Fantasy XIV besides the director. He or she alone has influenced this community more than Dawntrail itself. No other thread on any other topic has had this much attention. All OP did was make one post stating his or her opinion and the entire Internet implodes.

    At this point, you all are just talking to yourselves. There is no discussion, and you don't want one either. Why are people even pretending that OP is going to read 746 posts? The entire community is just a hivemind dogpiling over the one (1) person who posted a contrary opinion.
    What would be a discussion to you anyways ?
    No, I don't want a discussion, I want to assert that I think this difficulty is fine. I thought I made that clear enough. OP never wanted a discussion either, btw, so why the different goalposts for us ?
    You can paint us as mean as you like, from my perspective, you're the one trying to keep us from exercising our rights to express ourselves on a public forum regarding an opinion that was posted publicly that we disagree with.
    I haven't expressed any vitriol, and I hold nothing personally against OP. What I dislike and am speaking against is the opinion.
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    Last edited by jdtuggey; 07-20-2024 at 03:06 AM. Reason: Corrected my abysmal grammar :D

  10. #740
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    Kia Fyrelite
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    Mateus
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    This sounds like a you problem. I'm a casual player too, but I have 0 issues with the difficulty this expansion. Yes, the stuff took 1-3 tries for me to learn, but they are not so difficult if you pay attention. I learned to the extent that I know that most of the mechanics this expansion heavily use "order of resolution", or "the order that the mechanics are performed in." There's always a first and second mechanic. And they almost always resolve in the order they appear in. Such as Valigirmanda's tank buster/pushback combo. The tank buster always appears FIRST. Therefore, the tank buster always finishes FIRST. Then its followed up by the pushback aoe. Even if they are close together, mechanics dont overlap to the degree that they resolve at the same time.

    If you have issues with others dying so much, then wait to do the content for about 2 weeks so people have time to get the duties down.

    If you are running around like a chicken with your head cut off, you need to stop panicking and start paying attention. The tells for mechanics ARE NOT subtle. I also died a few times to Honey B. but I took the downtime to learn the mechanics I was seeing so I could know them better instead of getting frustrated and complaining. And while my party wiped 10+ times on the bomb dude, most of the party still learned the mechanics well enough to complete the fight. That instance was down to the fact that most of us were not paying attention at first and going into autopilot. A habit that resulted from running easier content on a regular basis.

    Ive done unsynced EX runs at max level every expansion to some degree for mounts, and even unsynced, the EX trials are harder than what we got this expansion for normal duties.

    This stuff has been a breath of fresh air compared to the snoozefest of Endwalker duties.

    The Warrior of Light on normal was more difficult than most of the duties this expansion so far. If you completed that duty, then you have no excuses for not being able to learn the new duties.

    And stop griping about failure. Just because you "cant" now does not mean you cant get better at it. I learned recently that someone in the FFXIV community does EX trials synced and they have a screwed-up hand from it getting run over as a kid. But they are completing something more difficult with that disability than most people have without said disability.
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