Difficulty of normal content.

[Chipoltle]

I really wonder how people who say its too hard would survive back in HW when some normal fights had enrage or Mach when it was new. Failure and wipes are not the end of the world. Pick your feet up and keep trying. If you can’t do that then perhaps your skill levels ends at msq and you can simply enjoy the story.

[Deslyxic]

I sympathize with the more casual player but the game should be designed around what the median player desires. For a fairly long time the dev team's read seemed to be that the median player wanted something on the easier side for normal mode content but the reaction to ShB and EW told the dev team that hey, maybe the median player is actually a bit closer to this opposing side. So they're trying that out. The total aggregation of everyone's opinions on this level of difficulty for normal mode content will be taken in when it is time to design the next expansion's content. It's important to have these conversations to direct the future of the game. For my part I am sincerely hopeful they continue on the current trajectory. DT's normals are a great spot for normals to be, and I'm hoping that the silent majority who have long been kind of coddled by normal mode content are finding this new normal to be rather enticing are considering dipping their toes into the Savage or Ultimate pool for the first time. Experiencing that kind of content and finding some enjoyment in it can only be a good thing, can only increase your love of the game.

Thank you so much for writing such a sensible answer!
I think you are part right but I feel they over corrected with the swing of difficulty. I disagree that this will be push people into harder content, instead is most likely people get pushed away from the content and even the game (certainly there are people in the answers that wishes for me to stop playing).

[Aevus]

The DT normal content is not savage or even extreme levels of difficulty but I do believe that at level 100 the normal content should have a bit more of a bite and be less coma inducing than what was the normal content of ShB/EW era. Dying and not doing well in normal duty finder content is OK and not a flaw at all with the content. You can always get improve and none of the DT normal content is so punishing as to prevent regular clears with random people.

[Sneakiest_bear]

Pre DT: The game is too easy, there's no challenging midcore content!
DT release: The game is too hard, please nerf...


Make up your mind.

[Avenger]

Pre DT: The game is too easy, there's no challenging midcore content!
DT release: The game is too hard, please nerf...


Make up your mind.

It is hard to satisfy everyone.

[Avenger]

I have not played the new raid but there have definitely been hard trials and regular raids in previous expansions. I still dislike the stacked mechs in Eden's verse: Iconoclasm.

[Daanny]

Honestly if this was under any other game forum I'd think you're trolling lol. It only makes sense that the game gets harder because this is a game... and you're lvl 100 now instead of lvl 90. Imagine if you played a game that never got past tutorial difficulty, would that be fun?

Anyway, if the fight is difficult, practise will help; if you don't want to play the content, then don't play the content.

Also addressing the "we don't do this content alone" paragraph: you said it's not an issue of learning the fight, because you can do that. Why is it that other people don't get a chance to learn the fight and die/wipe the way you were allowed to? Make it make sense.

[SeriousPan]

I'm sick and tired of some people saying all DF content should be 'casual' level and never get more difficult. You are level 100 and have gone through several expansions. It has to get harder eventually and you need to get better with it. Stop being afraid of failure and turn your brain on and try to improve. The "let people who want harder content do savage" argument is completely pants on head stupid and I'm also sick of seeing that thrown around. Why does there have to be two difficulties; Super Simple Easy & Savage? Everyone I know has been happy that there's more teeth on the dungeons and raids this time around after the absolute snore fest that was EW's difficulty in DF content. When we all get geared this stuff will be irrelevant in difficulty again anyway as we'll be able to eat more damage and out dps mechanics again.

Just queue, pay attention and learn. Failure in this game is not a big deal you just get rez'd and learn from your mistakes or your party wipes and you all try again.

[Capstone]

Awesome thread.

[Deslyxic]

lol @ the people saying "well, it needs to be harder because it's level 100 now", I've seen a couple of those comments by now.
I hope you are just trolling and understand why that doesn't work in a live service game.